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Re: Tornado And Hail Frequency Vs. Day Of The Week

From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 20:07:55 -0000
Archived: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 10:18:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Tornado And Hail Frequency Vs. Day Of The Week

>From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:18:46 -0700
>Subject: Re: Tornado And Hail Frequency Vs. Day Of The Week

>>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:51:21 -0000
>>Subject: Tornado And Hail Frequency Vs. Day Of The Week

>>There have been some claims over the years that types of UFO
>>reporting might vary with the day of the week. I recall in
>>particular John Keel's "Wednesday phenomenon". If this was ever
>>rigorously tested I'm not aware of it, nevertheless it's
>>intriguing that tornado and hail activity does proveably follow
>>such a law and that there may be a mechanism to explain why.

>>Perhaps other types of atmospheric phenomena could have a
>>similar anthropogenic signature?

>Hi Martin,

>I can't think of any that are periodic in this fashion, but I
>recall that the plane groundings (and resulting lack of
>contrails) after 9-11 had a noticeable effect on U.S. weather,
>primarily an increase the diurnal temperature variation.

>If a weekly periodicity were to be found in UFO sightings, I
>would say that's a pretty strong argument that the phenomenon
>is anthropogenic (or at least that subset that is driving the
>periodic signal), since weeks are a human convention, unlike,
>say, the lunar month.

Hi Mike

You never know what might fall out of a thorough-enough
statistical analysis, if it's possible to extract a coherent
population. This is a big problem with UFO reports of course
because not only are there clearly different phenomena involved,
almost everyone on this list would agree that we don't even know
what all of them are. But I could _imagine_ that some sorts of
UAP of the ball lightning type (whatever lurks under that
phenomenological umbrella) could have an anthropogenic

For example, take the theory explored by NARCAP colleague
Richard Spaulding that meteor trails may act as conductive
pathways and effectively bring the ionosphere potential right
down into the lower troposphere, causing electrical BL-like
phenomena. He has an interesting paper [.pdf] here:


An earlier related paper by a Queensland University of
Technology physicist Stephen Hughes came up on another list
yesterday. I remember discussing it on this list at the time it
came out. It's called Green Fireballs and Ball Lightning.at


and discusses a very similar idea. The single sighting he uses
may seem a slender prop for a sensational theory. Most
ufologists would smile at his naive assurances that the
gentleman didn't seem the type to make it up and was probably a
good observer because he'd been an artillery observer in the
Army - and the smile would be a strained grimace, because of
course such considerations are routinely ruled out of court when
people report "UFOs". Nevertheless, it's an interesting idea.
IIRC correctly the UK MoD's Condign author speculated about
something qualitatively similar to this.

If it were true I could imagine that fluctuations in the
dielectric property of the troposphere caused by varying aerosol
concentrations might affect the frequcny of meteor-caused UAPs,
in much the same unlikely-sounding way as they apparently affect
the spawning of tornados.


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