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Re: White House Ends Silence On UFOs & ETs With...

From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:37:51 -0500
Archived: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:12:50 -0500
Subject: Re: White House Ends Silence On UFOs & ETs With...


>From: Edward Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 11:57:04 -0800
>Subject: Re: White House Ends Silence On UFOs & ETs With...

>>From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:29:40 -0500
>>Subject: Re: White House Ends Silence On UFOs & ETs With...

<snip>

>List,

>Spyros is a liar, con-man, bankrupt, and all around BS artist.
>He was black-balled from his professional organization, The
>Magic Circle, for disgraceful behavior and for spreading
>malicious gossip. He says he is the mastermind behind the AA,
>yet his ignorance about many aspects of the footage indicates
>that he hasn't even carefully viewed or studied the AA himself.
>He certainly doesn't understand the brain removal, or other
>basic elements of the footage.

>Yes, he worked for Ray Santilli, but that was after the AA had
>already been purchased and described by Ray. Spyros has not
>produced any solid evidence that he was involved. He is not
>a player, and should be made to produce some evidence
>that he is.

>Steve has not viewed the AA either and really is not the best
>person to be acting as a doorkeeper on this subject.
>The entire List should open their minds and review the AA
>and the so-called evidence against it, if you're after the
>truth and want to understand why I think this is so important.

List,

I am one of the early investigators into the AA 'film' and grew
tired of the charade that Ray was maintaining, as did the other
original investigators. I posted the first images to get onto
the Internet (on an old ListServ site) from the 'film', after
they had been sent to me by Eduardo Russo in Italy when he
couldn't find an FTP to upload them to. These came out before
the London showing, during a promotion period in France and
Italy where they were trying to sell the rights to the 'film'
and were essentially photos from a television screen. Those
images remain on one archive site:

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/rflmimg2.html

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/rflmimg3.html

I also travelled to Socorro to see if I could locate the 'Crash
Site', while out West to attend a wedding, in 1996. One picture
that I took ended up in Beyond Roswell, but all this identifies
me as someone with an interest, and I have never claimed to be a
researcher (per se).

Ray had one very poor 'film' created, which was later identified
as the "Tent Sequence". This got out, but Ray never really
wanted such a bad attempt to be seen by the masses, and when he
showed it to a friend - Spyros - they entered into an agreement
for Spyros to essentially do it right.

No one has gone into the research that was done on both sides of
the Atlantic to prepare the story, or the supporting documentary
(i.e. marketing) materials that were really never widely used to
support the infamous 'Cameraman's Story'. I have copies of most
of that, and I have to assume that Ed does as well.

There's also follow up material from Robert Kiviat, who wasn't
able to sell his final productions to the US Market due to lack
of interest. And, there are the stills that Spyros provided that
show images from the 'film' that aren't aged-digitally.

None of this proves anything beyond all argument, and I would
agree that everyone should look at this 'film' with an open
mind. I am not a 'Gatekeeper' by any stretch of the imagination,
but I prefer not to lose brain cells by keeping my mind so open
that it leaks out onto the floor.


Steve



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