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Re: Telepathy & UFOs

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:25:22 +0000
Archived: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:08:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Telepathy & UFOs


>From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 10:52:58 -0500
>Subject: Re: Telepathy & UFOs

>>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 12:08:25 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Telepathy & UFOs

>>>From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 16:23:48 -0500
>>>Subject: Telepath & UFOs [was: Prayer Meditation Cause...]

>>>>From: Diana Cammack<cammack.nul>
>>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto<post.nul>
>>>>Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:19:32 +0200
>>>>Subject: Re: Prayer Meditation Cause 'White Orbs' To Respond

>>>>>Source: UfoExaminer.Com

>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/c4muyt6

>>>>>December 15, 2011

>>>>>Witness Says Prayer, Meditation Cause 'White Orbs' To Respond
>>>>>Roger Marsh

<snip>

>>Hello John,

>>I can understand the attraction of the source/receiver model of
>>communication to account for what we call telepathy.

><snip>

>>I think it is more likely that
>>the UFO existed somehow inside your own personal psychic
>>boundary unbeknownst to your conscious mind. I would suggest
>>that the UFO was nonetheless physical and visible to anyone with
>>you. This model says that you were a participant in creating the
>>sighting at some unconscious level, so you may naturally have
>>had some conscious control over the UFO's behavior.

>You're not serious are you? So you apparently favor a
>'Merlinian' explanation for my report. Something involving
>conjuring physical objects out of the subconscious.

>William, there were -two- other witnesses (my wife and a friend
>of my son who was visiting at the time,) and it seems a bit more
>plausible to me that three individuals observing the same
>phenomena saw what they say they saw, as opposed to one person
>'conjuring' up a vision from their subconscious that was then
>witnessed by others. I'd believe 'spacemen' before I'd believe
>it was a physical manifestation of my subconscious mind - that
>others could also see. Talk about stretching credulity. I
>thought I was bad!

>I'm sure you'd like to think that it must be some unconscious
>manifestation because it makes it so much easier to dismiss the
>alternative explanation. ie; We saw what we saw - objects of
>unknown origin or manufacture. I can tell you with sober
>certainty that what we witnessed was 'there' and I think it's
>much more of a stretch to think it was a 'mental construct'
>which assumed physical form and was then independently observed
>by three individuals.

>Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... <grin>

John:

First, I am a cigar smoker and need to tell you that there are
full-bodied and light weights to be smoked. So, there are
varying quality and densities of tobacco to be smoked.

Enough of that.

I hope you get that point. Freud - who originated the saying -
never tried to qualify his statement. I am.

As for William's analysis of the event you described, I have to
agree with William. Yes, it is possible to construct something
imaginary, so dense a couple of other people see it. We have
accounts of Indian, Tibetan and South American shaman creating
just such images - out of their subconscious for the people
around them.

You can believe anything you want and become confrontational
with anyone you think is challenging your perception of what
constitutes a 'real image'. However, the studies of how the
brain functions argues for William's analyses.


KK



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