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Re: White House Ends Silence On UFOs & ETs With...

From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 06:29:40 -0500
Archived: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:06:23 -0500
Subject: Re: White House Ends Silence On UFOs & ETs With...

>From: Edward Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:27:40 -0800
>Subject: Re: White House Ends Silence On UFOs & ETs With...


>Hi Jerry, List, EBK,

>Yes,I was certainly surprised when I arrived at this possible
>solution. It isn't a delusion, just an extrapolation. And even
>though "generations of historians, scientists, archaeologists,
>paleontologists, ecologists, and other scholars in a range of
>disciplines" have studied the phenomenon, they didn't have
>footage of the theoretical creatures or the debris from their
>crashed craft to study. Convergent evolution wasn't considered
>so the mechanism for change wasn't well understood. I'm not all
>that brilliant but I have followed the available evidence to its
>logical conclusion: most likely,the creature in the Alien
>Autopsy is a monotreme.

>Betty Hill told both Philip Mantle and me, on different
>occasions, that the creatures who abducted her looked the same
>as the creature in the AA. Perhaps it's time to reexamine our

>I realize that neither I nor others will ever prove, 100%, that
>the AA is legitimate, but even after fifteen years of scrutiny,
>there still isn't a single scrap of evidence that the AA is
>faked or hoaxed, while there is plenty of evidence that it

Hi Ed,

You know that I would support Jerry's position on this, so that
doesn't need to be said. But, let's not perpetuate a myth here.
There hasn't been a "scrap of evidence" that you are prepared to
accept as proof that the AA 'film' [note the quotes] was hoaxed.

As you are aware, Spyros Melaris has come forward to seek credit
for the hoax, which he created under contract with Ray Santilli.
He has provided enough information to convince most of those in
contact with him last year that he was indeed seriously involved
in creation of the hoax, and you were among a couple of holdouts
that wanted to see the 'landing on the white house lawn' type of
evidence to prove his case. But I don't want to go over a year's
worth of back and forth here, so let's just admit that we

I've CC'd Spyros with this, and if Errol doesn't mind, I'll post
any response he might have to this mention. He may not want to
respond, and for him this was a business deal, and not an effort
to prove anything by a hoax.

Spyros understood at the time of the London showing that the
hoax would be admitted to fairly quickly, and Spyros would get
credit for his work. That didn't happen, with Ray wanting to
ride this 'entertainment franchise' as long as he can.

For most of us, this is a rather old story that should be put to
rest, but for you this appears to be a calling.

In the end, you are correct that we'll never prove anything
about the 'Alien Autopsy film' to the 100% acceptance level, but
let's not count that as proof positive.


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