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Re: Prayer Meditation Cause 'White Orbs' To Respond

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:09:06 -0000
Archived: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 05:00:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Prayer Meditation Cause 'White Orbs' To Respond

>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:27:10 -0500
>Subject: Re: Prayer Meditation Cause 'White Orbs' To Respond

>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 23:00:51 -0000
>>Subject: Re: Prayer Meditation Cause 'White Orbs' To Respond


>>In which case we return to a basic question - can they read
>>minds? Or at least - intention?

>The issue I was responding to was the signal/noise ratio problem
>that someone "up there" would have in separating out one
>person's thoughts on the ground from all the others. This
>assumes that there is a receiver there to receive the message
>from the ground as in the case of prayer.

>It's not an issue if there is no receiver. There are stories
>that certain people, like Tibetan monks, can create thought
>forms out of thin air. I proposed that the person on the ground
>may be creating a thought form in the sky that would then appear
>to respond to the creator's wishes. But the thought form would
>not be separating those wishes from the background noise of
>other people's thoughts. It's being created by a thought from a
>person on the ground.

>As in the prayer scenario, a flashlight shining on a wall can be
>detected at the wall more easily at night than in bright
>daylight. But as in the thought form scenario, the light level
>on the wall is still incremented the same amount no matter what
>the ambient light level.

>Whether or not people on the ground could see the thought form
>would, of course, depend on its brightness and the background
>light level.

Hello William,

Nicely put, and part of that - the signal/noise problem - has
worried me also.

Admittedly your concept of the Tibetan tulpa:


could answer that, maybe in a solipsist sort of way (from what
I've read not all tulpas are visible to third-parties).

However, your analogy of the 'light on the wall' just provoked
another answer to that massive signal/noise problem (especially
troublesome in complex surroundings like cityscapes or jungles

I.e. - that their apparently amazing ability is down to the
human observer effectively "addressing" the message or thought
(unconsciously of course).

Which still leaves us with an apparent mind-reading problem, but
not such a preposterous one.

[BTW - maybe a little caution is advisable here; one reads many
accounts of people 'opening up their mind' to whatever is out
there - the reported results are a bit dodgy, sometimes even


Ray D

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