From: Gerald O'Connell <goc.nul> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 18:45:07 -0000 Archived: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 06:37:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Falls And The Trickster >From: Jim Deardorff <deardorj.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:29:30 -0800 >Subject: Re: Falls And The Trickster >>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> >>To: <post.nul> >>Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:01:48 -0000 >>Subject: Re: Falls And The Trickster >>>From: Carol Maltby <carolmaltby.nul> >>>To: post.nul >>>Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:31:11 -0500 >>>Subject: Re: Falls And The Trickster >>>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> >>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul> >>>>Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:56:56 -0000 >>>>Subject: Falls And The Trickster >>>>Keresley Villagers Mystified By Apple Shower >>>>www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-16203214 >><snip> >>>>Reading the collection you'll see that some quite massy objects >>>>feature, including quarry stones etc. While gravel (hundreds of >>>>reports) is almost feasibly lifted by 'whirlwinds', some other >>>>of the objects are unfeasibly large and dense. >>>>[Quite apart from the fact that 'falls' are always exclusively >>>>of one type of object or life-form - no mixtures, no rubbish, >>>>pond contents, branches or even dirt/soil - which one would >>>>surely expect to find if 'whirlwinds' were doing the work] >><snip> >>>There doesn't seem to be any interest by the British press in >>>doing "extraordinary investigation" of the phenomenon. It's been >>>weeks since the first frost in the Coventry area, yet one >>>motorist tells the Daily Mail that they were "small and green." >>>This may contradict Mr Meakins in the BBC report, who said some >>>of the apples were "large, like cooking apples (the Toronto Sun >>>decides to play it safe by calling them "yellowy-green"). No-one >>>appears to have wandered over to a greengrocer to find out what >>>kinds of apples they were. >><snip> >>Hello Carol, >>Yup, although tongue-in-cheek was hoping (as always) to prompt >>some actual 'scientific' analysis. >>Like - what circular wind-speeds are necessary to pick up a >>bunch of spherical, fairly dense things like apples? (Or quarry >>stones?) Does that happen (apart from the rarely recorded >>tornadoes) regularly around UK? >>And does a local 'whirlwind' have the energy (and time) to do >>mass/size 'sorting' of objects in the column? >>That last is because 'falls' always seem to be of one type and >>size of object/life-form. >You are so right, Ray. There is no way that an unreported >whirlwind or tornado could selectively pick up or sort out one >type of object from scores of other possibilities, and after >whirling them up around and around, dump them all in one small >locality. No atmospheric scientist worth his salt could go along >with any of that, unless the alternative was unthinkable to him, >that certain aliens were merely flaunting their advanced >capabilities, or perhaps demonstrating them for educational >purposes. Then any alternative to this is better than the >unthinkable. >It would be an easier alternative to believe that the apples had >been dumped, in one huge dose, by a trickster from an airplane >whose sight, sound and flight plan were unobserved or unknown. >But this still would not explain previous unexplained falls of >various creatures/species in past decades in England. Hi Jim, For the benefit of the layman, can you explain why it is not possible for there to be a process whereby tornados or tornado- like atmospheric effects: 1. Pick up objects from the ground, including those similar in size and density to those under discussion here; 2. Transport them a considerable distance such that their 're- appearance' at ground level is not associated with the effects that caused them to be lifted aloft; 3. Cause these objects to be dropped back to the surface selectively at different times and places according to their size and/or density via a process analogous to fractional distillation. Gerald O'Connell http://www.saatchionline.com/gacoc Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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