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Re: Falls And The Trickster

From: Jim Deardorff <deardorj.nul>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:29:30 -0800
Archived: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:28:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Falls And The Trickster


>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:01:48 -0000
>Subject: Re: Falls And The Trickster

>>From: Carol Maltby <carolmaltby.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:31:11 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Falls And The Trickster

>>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 03:56:56 -0000
>>>Subject: Falls And The Trickster

>>>Keresley Villagers Mystified By Apple Shower
>>>www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-16203214

><snip>

>>>Reading the collection you'll see that some quite massy objects
>>>feature, including quarry stones etc. While gravel (hundreds of
>>>reports) is almost feasibly lifted by 'whirlwinds', some other
>>>of the objects are unfeasibly large and dense.

>>>[Quite apart from the fact that 'falls' are always exclusively
>>>of one type of object or life-form - no mixtures, no rubbish,
>>>pond contents, branches or even dirt/soil - which one would
>>>surely expect to find if 'whirlwinds' were doing the work]

><snip>

>>There doesn't seem to be any interest by the British press in
>>doing "extraordinary investigation" of the phenomenon. It's been
>>weeks since the first frost in the Coventry area, yet one
>>motorist tells the Daily Mail that they were "small and green."
>>This may contradict Mr Meakins in the BBC report, who said some
>>of the apples were "large, like cooking apples (the Toronto Sun
>>decides to play it safe by calling them "yellowy-green"). No-one
>>appears to have wandered over to a greengrocer to find out what
>>kinds of apples they were.

><snip>

>Hello Carol,

>Yup, although tongue-in-cheek was hoping (as always) to prompt
>some actual 'scientific' analysis.

>Like - what circular wind-speeds are necessary to pick up a
>bunch of spherical, fairly dense things like apples? (Or quarry
>stones?)  Does that happen (apart from the rarely recorded
>tornadoes) regularly around UK?

>And does a local 'whirlwind' have the energy (and time) to do
>mass/size 'sorting' of objects in the column?

>That last is because 'falls' always seem to be of one type and
>size of object/life-form.


You are so right, Ray. There is no way that an unreported
whirlwind  or tornado could selectively pick up or sort out one
type of object from scores of other possibilities, and after
whirling them up around and around, dump them all in one small
locality. No atmospheric scientist worth his salt could go along
with any of that, unless the alternative was unthinkable to him,
that certain aliens were merely flaunting their advanced
capabilities, or perhaps demonstrating them for educational
purposes. Then any alternative to this is better than the
unthinkable.

It would be an easier alternative to believe that the apples had
been dumped, in one huge dose, by a trickster from an airplane
whose sight, sound and flight plan were unobserved or unknown.
But this still would not explain previous unexplained falls of
various creatures/species in past decades in England.


Jim Deardorff



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