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Re: Essential Read From Current Encounters List

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:43:20 -0000
Archived: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:06:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Essential Read From Current Encounters List

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 09:24:17 -0600
>Subject: Re: Essential Read From Current Encounters List

>And so on...

>What you're expressing, of course, is classic
>anti-intellectualism. I believe I am safe in presuming you have
>not heard, or probably ever heard of, the late Richard
>Hofstadter's revelatory essay on the subject.

>I don't know why I should be shocked that some in our field
>would actually defend the proposition that knowledge makes one
>rigid, textbooks are a waste of paper, and scientists,
>historians, and scholars in general are just a punch of
>pointy-heads whose sole purpose is to foil progress.

No fair Jerry. That's 'straw man' tactics. None of those
concepts/opinions are mine but generated by you, for ease of
shooting/shouting down.

In fact one must do a great deal of study (necessarily using
text-books) before being equipped to realize how text-books can
mislead and misdirect.

Firstly and most commonly by omission of inconvenient experiment
details (i.e. the 'two-slit is almost always described _without_
the part which doesn't fit the wave/particle concepts usually

Secondly by peddling 'consensus models' which bear little
relation to reality and usually go _way_ beyond what the
physical results can justify. Try almost any text-books written
in last half-century on Relativity, and also more recent stuff
on Quantum (inc. Feynman's lectures, good as they are). A wise
student would ignore about 30% to 50%, sometims more (but how
can we be wise before doing the study?).

Ironically, reading Feynman intensively should bring you his
confession that he 'rigs the figures' in many lectures, not
merely because 'it's complicated' but because some/many photon
actions are too 'weird' (anti-intuitive) to fit with his lecture

And if you take the trouble, as I have, to read some of
Einstein's actual early papers, like 'The Foundation of the
General Theory of Relativity' A. Einstein 1916 - Annalen der
Physik (translations available) you should easily see that much
subsequent text-book gush is hot air.

[Folk might like to also try Weyl's contemporary thoughts,
usually printed in those same tranlations - personally I think
they're deeper amd more interesting. And for a more extensive
modern critique of various 'Relativities' try Tom van Flandern's
'Speed of Gravity' at:


along with several cups of coffee.]

There seems to be no easy route, no guaranteed '100% correct'
texts to read. I.e. - in physics, as in ufology, genuine
students have to find their own way. [Unless, if course, you
want to be a 'talking-head' poser, or to work as a (gov't)
scientist, in which case you probably have to learn just the
'approved texts' to qualify.]


Ray D

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