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Re: Essential Read From Current Encounters List

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:12:57 -0000
Archived: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 07:01:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Essential Read From Current Encounters List


>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:42:11 -0600
>Subject: Re: Essential Read From Current Encounters List

<snip>

>Sorry, Ray, but you just made my point.

>When a decent awareness of established knowledge in established
>disciplines, plus an intelligent respect for logical thinking,
>is equated with "accepting a guru," then the problems I outlined
>are demonstrated for all to see.

Hi Jerry,

Hate to appear to quibble*, and that seems OK at face value but
on examination it's either over-restrictive or virtually
meaningless:

i) 'a decent awareness' is open to interpretation (and claims);

ii) 'established knowledge' demands blind acceptance of the
text-books - all obsolete, many before being printed;

iii) 'established disciplines' presumes no further, presently
unimagined, disciplines will emerge;

iv) 'intelligent respect' again is open to interpretation (and
claims);

and

v) 'logical thinking', while I've often been tempted to use it,
avoids the question; "Whose logic?".

For instance, Anthony Roberts and Geoff Gilbertson in 'The Dark
gods: Do they Haunt Us Still?' made an interesting point:

"The numerous phenomena manifest just outside any knowledge-
framework of the receivers, and yet they seem to have 'natural
laws' and formal interconnections of their own"

I.e - indicating a working 'logic' which is nevertheless
inimicable to 'established knowledge'.


Cheers

Ray D

* although the etymologists seem unaware, I believe the word
derives from the apparently endless (in earlier times)
discussions about the _exact_ direction (qibla) one should face
in order to be pointing at the Ka'aba in Mecca.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibla



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