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Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys

From: Kathleen Marden <Kmarden.nul>
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 09:50:27 -0500 (EST)
Archived: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:21:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys


>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 19:50:29 +0000
>Subject: Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys

>>From: Kathleen Marden <Kmarden.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 07:40:30 -0500 (EST)
>>Subject: Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys

>>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:41:43 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys

><snip>

>>KK's statement that Denise Stoner and I are only looking for
>>data appears to be a criticism of the fact that we are not
>>mental health practitioners. The fact is that most abduction
>>investigators and researchers are not psychotherapists. We do
>>not purport that this survey will be used to heal the emotional
>>wounds of abduction experiencers. We have made it very clear
>>that we are UFO abduction researchers and investigators
>>collecting data about the commonalities in UFO abduction
>>experiences.

>>It seems pertinent that I should mention that I am very well
>>aware of the emotional and psychic pain suffered by abductees. I
>>am the niece of Betty and Barney Hill and was very close to
>>them. I am also sympathetic to the plight of others who have
>>been subjected to the emotional and physical trauma of having
>>been kidnapped and experimented on by non-human entities.

>Kathleen:

>That is the problem, isn't it? You are thinking my opinion is a
>criticism of your research. In a way, it is.

>The model you are implementing is what would be referred to as
>the Jack Webb/Dragnet model of "give me the facts, ma'am, just
>the facts". At no time, in what I read, is there information
>provided to the volunteer of what could happen to their mental
>state by reliving the experience. Your focus is just on the
>facts, not the human providing the facts.

>The people you want to volunteer had a crack in their worldview,
>slid through and returned to tell the tale. And, all you are
>focused on is mining their data. That is a little on the cold
>side. But, then that is how any witness is treated within the
>field of UFO research. 'Just give us the facts, just the facts'.
>Without regard for the what has happened emotionally, and
>sometimes physically, to the witness/experiencer.

>Maybe, you should consult with a shaman or psychotherapist
>before proceeding with your research. And, as I recommended
>possibly contacting Dr. Rick Strassman (www.rickstrassman.com)
>or accessing the government website for information regarding
>Informed Consent Form.

>I was hoping the above would be seen as helpful not being
>critical of your wanting to do the research.

>Just because someone wants to provide information doesn't
>mean you should take advantage of their desire to do so.


The survey is being offered on a volunteer basis to those who
feel comfortable taking it. No one is being forced to do
anything. Many people gain a sense of relief in knowing that
others have had identical experiences.

Denise and I have been providing support and understanding to
abductees for many years.

It is though talking to a others who share the same experiences
and gaining acceptance and understanding that they are able to
move on with their lives. It is cathartic. Comments from
abductees that have taken the survey have been very positive.
They are anxious to hear the results.

I have visited Dr. Rick Strassman's site. Our questionnaire is
not an experimental study. It is a only a simple, straight
forward survey. No identifying information is necessary.

I must comment that my perception of your behavior is that you
tend to heap an inordinate amount of criticism upon others.

Kindness in this overly nasty world is very much appreciated.


Kathleen Marden




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