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Re: Women's UFO Symposium Takes On 'Old Boys Club'

From: Edward Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 16:22:02 -0800
Archived: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 11:12:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Women's UFO Symposium Takes On 'Old Boys Club' 

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 09:24:27 -0600
>Subject: Re: Women's UFO Symposium Takes On 'Old Boys Club'

>From: Edward Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:42:39 -0800
>Subject: Re: Women's UFO Symposium Takes On 'Old Boys Club'

Hi, Ed,


>>"Negro" superseded "colored" as the most polite terminology, at
>>a time when "black" was more offensive

>As a student of American history, including prominently its
>sorry racial history, I am well aware of how names by which
>persons of African descent have prefer to call themselves have
>evolved over time. I don't have to go to Wikipedia to inform


Yes, you probably do have a grasp of black history, but I wanted
the List members to understand the context. My friend wants to
be known as an American Negro, but that shouldn't disqualify him
from having an opinion as to why African Americans aren't
attracted to or interested in UFO. He was agreeing with your
observation. Most blacks, African Americans and Negros aren't
interested in UFO or aliens. It's "white folks business".

>Any person of color in 2011 who prefers to be called
>"Negro" is not a representative African American. That's simply
>a factual statement, not a value judgment.

The use of "negro" as an identifying term is/was quite common
and was used by 50,000 folks in the 2000 census. That's why it
was included on the 2010 form.

>Again, only polling data, not conversations with random
>individuals, can answer the question of how African Americans
>feel about UFOs. Such an effort should also compare their
>interests as opposed to other Americans' in other, non-
>ufological recreational matters and hobbies. Until such data are
>available, further discussion - especially by a couple of white
>guys - seems pointless.

Again, you brought this subject up. Who did you think would be
discussing it? UpDates is a List of white guys with a few women
and as far as I can tell, very few people of color and probably
no American Negros.

So the best we can hope for in our discussion is a bunch of
white guys and maybe a woman, working together, trying to figure
out some of the reasons why African Americans aren't attracted
to ufological matters. I have to agree: it does seem a little


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