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Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys

From: Denise Stoner <dms.mufonssd.nul>
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 10:15:14 -0800 (PST)
Archived: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 09:45:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys



>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:41:43 +0000
>Subject: Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys

>>From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:47:13 -0400
>>Subject: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys

>>Abduction Experiencer Surveys

>>Abduction researcher, author and former International Director
>>of Field Investigator Training, Kathleen Marden, and Denise
>>Stoner, Florida MUFON's Director of Investigations, are
>>collaborating on an abduction experiencer research project.

>>Our goal is to expand our understanding of the alien abduction
>>phenomenon through the use of two questionnaires.

>>We, in turn, plan to publish our findings pertaining to little
>>known commonalities among UFO abductees.

>>The UFO Abduction Experiencer Survey lists 45 general multiple
>>choice questions pertaining to experiencer's demographics,
>>abduction memories, psychic phenomena experiences, and
>>physiological responses. Some examples of these questions
>>include the following:

><snip>

>>Participants' identities will remain anonymous. If you wish to
>>be personally contacted regarding the results of this survey,
>>you need only include your email address.

>>Denise Stoner and I want to thank-you in advance for
>>facilitating our research efforts and increasing our knowledge
>>about alien abduction.

>List:

>While it is important to have an individual who experienced a
>crack in their worldview - passed through the crack and lived to
>tell the tale - these researchers are only looking for data not
>offering a guide to managing & healing themselves.

>I am not making a reference to seeking out someone who claims to
>"work with abductees". There is a psychic/emotional component
>that is never addressed. The appropriate individual to address
>this aspect of the experience would be a shaman or
>psychotherapist. Someone with the background of Dr. Angela
>Smith.

>More to the point, nowhere in the blurb was Informed Consent
>Form discussed. There is a brief statement about participants
>remaining anonymous, but not much else.

>I suggest that the researchers contact or read DMT by Dr. Rick
>Strassman, M.D. for an example of how to write an ICF for
>unconventional research. If no ICF is a part of this research,
>it cannot be called or seen as a scientific study. And, the
>participant will not be protected from adverse effects of
>participating in this project. Yes, there could be adverse
>effects. Because, once again, the UFO research community
>collects the data but leaves the experiencer/witness hanging in
>the wind.

There are many aspects of research and final discovery of truth
that can remain enmeshed in a web of rules decided by many who
feel the individuals conducting any type of research are not
qualified to do so. I believe science and medicine should play a
huge part in this search. However, after working with these
possible abductees for 20+ years, holding private meetings, and
collecting their stories during these meetings, Kathy and I have
gathered information science and medical people will never be
privy to.

These private meetings are attended by all walks of life
including doctors, researchers, Psychologists, etc. They do not
wish to have their experiences exposed to the general populace
nor the media. What sharing is done, is freely offered within
the confines of this small space, but all of it stays in that
room. Once the door is opened and everyone leaves to go home,
not a word is spoken regarding information shared. It has been
mentioned time and again what great relief and peace of mind is
felt when they are given this opportunity to meet other
"experiencers" in such a setting.

At one point it was discovered that these individuals had
several things in common, enough so that Kathy and I felt it
would benefit the support group even more if they had a survey
to answer, something solid to see on paper, comparisons to make
and discuss at a future meeting. The group was thrilled and
excited to fill out what we put together. How many others have
been helped this way - uncountable I suspect. We will meet in
the near future to give them the results so even if there is
nothing written in concrete - we have something to think about,
talk about, and perhaps look at a connection between these
people.

We felt this would be an opportunity for other people out there
to help us and themselves learn more about this subject. No one
is forcing a person to take pen in hand and fill them out. All
answers do not have to come from a laboratory or licensed
professional. Just a few people who care about each other, want
to share, need the answers to a life long question and are
willing to continue seeking in whatever manner they choose. The
truth may not be in a test tube or Dr.s response but a small
room where a lot of talking goes on freely, unencumbered by the
outside world, and ideas of what to do next in order to help
each other are highly respected.



Denise M. Stoner
Chief Investigator, Florida
MUFON State Section Director



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