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Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys

From: Kathleen Marden <Kmarden.nul>
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 07:40:30 -0500 (EST)
Archived: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:36:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys


>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 17:41:43 +0000
>Subject: Re: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys

>>From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 09:47:13 -0400
>>Subject: Alien Abduction Experiencer Surveys

>>Abduction Experiencer Surveys

>>Abduction researcher, author and former International Director
>>of Field Investigator Training, Kathleen Marden, and Denise
>>Stoner, Florida MUFON's Director of Investigations, are
>>collaborating on an abduction experiencer research project.

>>Our goal is to expand our understanding of the alien abduction
>>phenomenon through the use of two questionnaires.

>>We, in turn, plan to publish our findings pertaining to little
>>known commonalities among UFO abductees.

>>The UFO Abduction Experiencer Survey lists 45 general multiple
>>choice questions pertaining to experiencer's demographics,
>>abduction memories, psychic phenomena experiences, and
>>physiological responses. Some examples of these questions
>>include the following:

><snip>

>>Participants' identities will remain anonymous. If you wish to
>>be personally contacted regarding the results of this survey,
>>you need only include your email address.

>>Denise Stoner and I want to thank-you in advance for
>>facilitating our research efforts and increasing our knowledge
>>about alien abduction.

>List:

>While it is important to have an individual who experienced a
>crack in their worldview - passed through the crack and lived to
>tell the tale - these researchers are only looking for data not
>offering a guide to managing & healing themselves.

>I am not making a reference to seeking out someone who claims to
>"work with abductees". There is a psychic/emotional component
>that is never addressed. The appropriate individual to address
>this aspect of the experience would be a shaman or
>psychotherapist. Someone with the background of Dr. Angela
>Smith.

>More to the point, nowhere in the blurb was Informed Consent
>Form discussed. There is a brief statement about participants
>remaining anonymous, but not much else.

>I suggest that the researchers contact or read DMT by Dr. Rick
>Strassman, M.D. for an example of how to write an ICF for
>unconventional research. If no ICF is a part of this research,
>it cannot be called or seen as a scientific study. And, the
>participant will not be protected from adverse effects of
>participating in this project. Yes, there could be adverse
>effects. Because, once again, the UFO research community
>collects the data but leaves the experiencer/witness hanging in
>the wind.


KK's statement that Denise Stoner and I are only looking for
data appears to be a criticism of the fact that we are not
mental health practitioners. The fact is that most abduction
investigators and researchers are not psychotherapists. We do
not purport that this survey will be used to heal the emotional
wounds of abduction experiencers. We have made it very clear
that we are UFO abduction researchers and investigators
collecting data about the commonalities in UFO abduction
experiences.

It seems pertinent that I should mention that I am very well
aware of the emotional and psychic pain suffered by abductees. I
am the niece of Betty and Barney Hill and was very close to
them. I am also sympathetic to the plight of others who have
been subjected to the emotional and physical trauma of having
been kidnapped and experimented on by non-human entities.



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