From: Alfred Lehmberg <alienview.nul> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:59:54 -0500 Archived: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:19:30 -0400 Subject: Re: Jeff Rense >From: Michael M. Hughes <michaelmhughes.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:23:19 -0400 >Subject: Jeff Rense [was: Hudson Valley UFOs] >>From: Gregory Boone <evolbaby.nul> >>To: post.nul >>Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:19:29 -0400 (EDT) >>Subject: Hudson Valley UFOs >>Having done a great bit of growing up in the Hudson Valley, New >>York and seen a number of UFOs very close, and have written >>about the encounters, talked on radio as well, something dawned >>on me after doing a guest spot on Jeff Rense's radio program >>with Robert Morningstar of UFO Digest Magazine. >Greg, >Again, I will ask - and hopefully get an answer: >Why do Ufologists such as you and Robert Morningstar continue to >appear on the Jeff Rense show, when the host is a defender of >Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis like Ernst Zundel, publishes >anti-Semitic, anti-gay, and other racist materials, and >continues to post articles suggesting that Jews are a cancer on >the planet and that Judaism is a religion of pornographers, >commies, and abortionists intent on enslaving the planet? <snip> Appreciative of courage, consistency, ethics, and attitude I'm very unstintingly pro-Semitic, and have been since I explored my own low-voltage bigotry in this regard at college-even producing a cited research paper on the subject. Learned discoveries were equal parts humiliating and enlightening. Now, call it a loss-leader, a duplicitous ruse to appear balanced, or a mistake, but Jeff Rense has twice published my research paper at Rense.com. He published my paper, additionally, while knowing full well that I am a supporter of the gay and lesbian communities, minority rights advocate, plus an ardent Liberal who is _unfailingly_ progressive. Yes. The content you allude to _is_ horrifying, disappointing, toxic, and fascist... but I've known Jeff Rense for over fifteen years and he is _none_ of those things. On the contrary, he's an educated and intelligent patriot who is reasonable and reasoning, dependable, informative, and who supports our Republic. Additionally, and this is key, I sense he believes that there is no "thing" beyond examination, re-evaluation, or review. Sacred cows have to queue up for the acid test along with _everything_ else. What we discover then is what we discover, then. What do I think about the content you allude to? I'm revolted, of course... but then I remember that I would not have even seen those screeds but that they get a light on them at Rense.com, and having seen them I am only further inoculated against most of them. Some of them remain to provoke alternative thinking. Palestine can't be all _wrong_. Israel can't be all _right_. I say this presuming the reader does not confuse global Jewry with the nation of Israel. They're not the same thing. It is argued that such a production is an offense to the senses and our humanity... but we are not improved in a censorship of the subjects, to the contrary: intelligence is insulted and we are put in harms way as a result. Ignorance provides for that kind of harm because, Mr. Hughes, nothing is as it appears. No. Thing. On the subject of "laughable disclaimers" I can only remind that while disclaimers _can_ be laughable and made a point of justified derision, I offer that you can take Jeff Rense at his word in the first place, and that Noam Chomsky is spot on in the second: "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." alienview.nul www.AlienView.net AVG Blog -- http://alienviewgroup.blogspot.com/ U F O M a g a z i n e -- www.ufomag.com Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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