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Re: UFO files #8 Released By UK National Archives

From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:10:43 -0300
Archived: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:31:02 -0400
Subject: Re: UFO files #8 Released By UK National Archives


>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:02:03 -0300
>Subject: Re: UFO files #8 Released By UK National Archives

>>From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:15:35 +0100
>>Subject: Re: UFO files #8 Released By UK National Archives

>>>From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:05:09 -0300
>>>Subject: Re: UFO files #8 Released By UK National Archives

>>>To those who have reviewed the MOD files, would it be correct to
>>>assume that no TOP SECRET Files have been released?

>>None that haven't been redacted(including their security
>>markings) - do you expect there to be some?

>Considering the efforts that you, David and others had to put
>into getting the MoD files released in the first place and which
>have been coming out in clumps for some years now would it not
>make sense that the RAF's inability to guarantee the UK's
>airspace would likely produce some embarrassing cases that might
>be held back?

>The United States and Canada have done the same and all three
>have parroted one another with the claim that these unidentified
>objects pose no threat to national security.

>On August 4 in Washington, DC two F-16s intercepted a 75 year
>old woman flying a 60 horsepower J-3 Piper Cub (a rag wing as we
>call them) when she drifted into restricted airspace over
>Chicago (she didn't get the NOTAM) because President Obama was
>there for his birthday celebration. The pilot, Myrtle Rose
>thought they flew by to admire her pretty little Cub but she was
>met by the police when she landed.

>Myrtle was no threat to national security either but they chased
>her anyway when NORAD reported her straying into the  Secret
>Service's paranoia zone. The radar signature of a J-3 Cub is
>pretty small. Cars below pass J-3s on the four lane highways.
>Flying close over top of a J-3 with an F-16 would destroy it by
>the way.

>One wonders if Ms Rose was able to suddenly warp away at Mach 15
>in her J-3 Cub, out maneuver her F-16 persuit, avoid being shot
>down would she then NOT be a threat to national security? Would
>it then be classified Top Secret because it is too embarrassing
>to release to the public; claimed not a threat to national
>security; or redacted to the point of un-readability?

>It appears that if these air forces can't catch or out maneuver
>an unidentified flying object then said object is no longer a
>threat to national security. During WWII it was imperative to
>have air superiority over Europe and Japan in order for the
>allies to win.

>Funny how times change.

I must once again repeat USAF General Carroll Bolender's October
1969 statement (It resulted in the closure of Project Blue
Book): "Reports of UFOs which could affect National Security are
made in accordance with JANAP 146 or Air Force Manual 55-11 and
are not part of the Blue Book System" . Blue Book was not on the
distribution list for those reports. I confirmed this with
General Bolender by phone years later.


Stan Friedman




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