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Re: Report From Lumberton NJ Witness 07-30-11

From: Robert Powell <rpowell.nul>
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 08:37:45 -0500
Archived: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 05:38:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Report From Lumberton NJ Witness 07-30-11

>From: Gerald O'Connell<goc.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 23:45:19 +0100
>Subject: Re: Report From Lumberton NJ Witness 07-30-11

>>From: Robert Powell<rpowell.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 19:49:05 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Report From Lumberton NJ Witness 07-30-11

>>>From: Gerald O'Connell<goc.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 22:05:55 +0100
>>>Subject: Re: Report From Lumberton NJ Witness 07-30-11


>>>Neither Martin nor Robert have commented on the reported
>>>rotation of the object. Does this fit the lantern scenario?
>>Gerald, if an object at night has a single light attached to it,
>>then the light should fade in and out as it rotates.
>This introduces assumptions about the structure of the object
>that are not supported by any part of the witness's account.

Gerald, perhaps you could explain your theory as to how an
object at night with only a single light "visibly" rotates
without a change in its brightness.

>>A witness,
>>whether it is a UFO sighting or a car crash, will not get all of
>>the details correct. The direction of the object's movement, the
>>constant speed without change of direction, its slowness of
>>movement, and its color all point to a Chinese Lantern. The
>>witnesses' belief that the object may have been rotating is not
>>sufficient for me to discard the Chinese Lantern theory. I don't
>>fault the witness. That witness's description of what he saw is
>>actually much better that most that I have interviewed.
>This could be argued to be a form of special pleading on your
>part. You are happy to accept that the witness's description is
>'better than most' insofar as his information fits the lantern
>scenario, and yet you relegate the witness's report of rotation
>to that of a mere 'belief' after suggesting that the witness
>will not have got this part of his description right.

There is no pleading. It is much more easy for a witness to
identify the correct direction of movement, that it traveled
in a straight line, its color, and its apparent speed of
movement. Discerning that a bright light is rotating at night
is much more difficult. I do not assume that some parts of a
witness's statements are correct and brush aside others as a
'belief'. Everything that a witness sees is his/her 'belief'
of what transpired. Perhaps correct, perhaps incorrect. It
is the job of an investigator to look at the likelihood of
each event, and with as little bias as possible, to render
a judgment as to what the witness has seen. Sometimes the
conclusion is "unknown". In this case, a Chinese Lantern
fits what this witness saw very well.

Robert Powell

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