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Re: Report From Lumberton NJ Witness 07-30-11

From: Gerald O'Connell <goc.nul>
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 22:05:55 +0100
Archived: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 18:13:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Report From Lumberton NJ Witness 07-30-11

>From: Robert Powell <rpowell.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:48:41 -0500
>Subject: Re: Report From Lumberton NJ Witness 07-30-11

>>From: Martin Shough<parcellular.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 15:06:45 +0100
>>Subject: Re: Report From Lumberton NJ Witness 07-30-11

>>>From: Peter Davenport<director.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto<post.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:29:29 -0700
>>>Subject: Report From Lumberton NJ Witness 07-30-11

>>>This first object, after passing over me, vanished.
>>>Within 10 seconds of the first object vanishing, I noticed a
>>>second object, exact same characteristics; once again appear on
>>>the northern horizon.

>>This successive passage of identical lights on roughly the same
>>course, bright red-orange in colour and described as "fireballs"
>>which then "vanish", is typical of fire balloons or 'Thai
>>lanterns' as anyone familiar with investigation or even casual
>>reading of large numbers of  reports ought to know.

>I agree with Martin. I've launched Chinese Lanterns and this
>type of behavior that was observed by the witness is very
>typical of Chinese Lanterns. The color, constant motion, and
>appearing to "vanish" all point towards Chinese Lanterns. I can
>understand the witnesses' confusion as to what they were
>observing. If I had not seen how a Chinese Lantern behaves, I
>would also have been confused when seeing one for the first

>>>It certainly took my breath away to see the shape, color and
>>>rotation of the solid object as I illuminated it from below.

>>A two-foot paper balloon 400 ft away would appear a little over
>>1/4 degree across, as reported by the witness. It seems quite
>>possible that his spotlight might illuminate it as it continued
>>to drift away from him to the south until its internal air

>>Both objects were travelling from north to south at a steady,
>>not great, angular rate, about 2 deg/sec or less (45 sec from
>>somewhere above the N horizon to almost overhead). Some of this
>>rate would be real climb, some residue would be forward motion
>>in a N-S direction. This suggests slow true speed. As does the
>>fact that the second object was still within range of his
>>spotlight after 3 minutes.

>>The forecast for the New Jersey area that Saturday night,
>>7/30/2011, was as described by the witrness - clear with a low of
>>66 deg, and the forecast wind - which he does not mention - was
>>light, from North to South.  See


>The upper winds also varied from the north to north-northeast
>between elevations of 290' to 4600'.

Neither Martin nor Robert have commented on the reported
rotation of the object. Does this fit the lantern scenario?

Whenever I have seen these lanterns in flight they have had a
characteristic pattern of movement: directionally constant, but
with discernible dips and wobbles - just what you'd expect from
an object being carried by the wind. Also, they tend to flicker
and flare for few seconds followed by gradual dimming before the
flame extinguishes. It would be interesting to check these
points with the witness.

Perhaps PD will make the photos available for inspection and


Gerald O'Connell

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