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Re: Trindade 'Negative Witness' Found

From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 15:49:04 -0600
Archived: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:33:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Trindade 'Negative Witness' Found


>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:13:16 +0100
>Subject: Re: Trindade 'Negative Witness' Found

>>From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:15:57 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Trindade 'Negative Witness' Found

>>>From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
>>>To:  post.nul
>>>Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:29:49 -0600
>>>Subject: Re: Trindade 'Negative Witness' Found

>><snip>

>>>Assuming they were not colluding, is there any indication that
>>>Barauna could have known, prior to boarding, about the alleged
>>>previous sightings in the area and/or Bacellar's mission to
>>>gather information about them?

>>Yes. We do know that already in the trip to the Island there
>>were many comments about the previous flying saucer sightings.
>>Sources and details in our upcoming work.

>A few years ago when I wanted an answer to Mike's question, and
>when nobody was willing to share with me their copies of the
>ship's log, I calculated from known time and distance informatiin
>on the return trip and the speed and direction of ocean currents
>that that it must have taken, conservatively, at least six days
>to get to the island from Rio. Since she arrived on Jan14 this
>would mean that she left Rio on Jan 07, or Jan 08.

This is consistent with Barauna's testimony in an interview with
Joao Martins, published in O Cruzeiro on 08 Mar 1958, where he
states explicitly that the ship left Rio on 08 Jan (see Olavo
Fontes three-part article on Trindade, archived at the CUFOS web
site [http://tinyurl.com/3q2c5fb], originally in the APRO
Bulletins of Jan, Mar, and May 1960).

>I now have a copy of most of the ship's log, and as far as I can
>tell the ship did indeed depart Rio on the morning of Jan 08, but
>the more significant thing is that Barauna (with Amilar and
>Viegas) is recorded coming aboard on the morning of Jan 07.
>The first sighting on the island was on Dec 31 1957. It was
>reported to the Navy High Command in Capt. Bacellar's radiogram
>on that same date, Dec 31.

>So Barauna was already on the ship one week after the very
>_first_ incident _occurred on Trindade.

Fontes, in the same reference above, alleges that there was more
sighting activity going on than that. Specifically, that "...at
least six other sightings had been made at the Island before the
arrival of that ship, in less than two months", beginning with
an incident involving Bacellar himself in late November 1957,
shortly after start-up of the oceanographic/meteorological
facility. I can't personally attest to the reliability of Fontes
material, but he's evidently quite knowledgeable about the case.


Mike




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