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Re: Velez On 'Alien' Symbols

From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:39:19 -0400
Archived: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:33:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Velez On 'Alien' Symbols


>From: Rick Nielsen <nilthchi.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 07:22:53 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: Velez On 'Alien' Symbols

>>From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 19:50:37 -0400
>>Subject: Velez On 'Alien' Symbols

><snip>

>>In 1995, during a hypnosis session with Budd, I told him that I
>>was seeing what looked like 'writing' that was stamped or
>>embossed onto a wall onboard a craft. Budd asked me to make a
>>mental note of what I was seeing and that I would be able to
>>remember it after the session. Immediately upon waking up, Budd
>>placed a yellow legal pad and a pencil in my lap and asked me if
>>I could reproduce whatever it was I saw on that wall. I told
>>him, no problem - I being a graphic artist - and the symbols
>>were pretty simple and straight forward in terms of line and
>>overall structural/thematic construction. The symbols have
>>internal stylistic integrity. I carefully jotted down for him as
>>accurately as I could, about 8 or 10 of the symbols/ glyphs.

><snip>

>>Budd stood right up and asked
>>me to rest a moment and he'd be right back. There was something
>>he wanted me to see.

><snip>

>>He returned quickly and near breathless. He was clutching a
>>purple, plastic file folder to his chest with both hands. He
>>deposited the folder on the couch in front of me and as he sat
>>down to observe my reaction, he gently opened it up without
>>saying a word.

><snip>

>>Inside the folder were about a dozen or more - at the time -
>>pieces of paper, random, different kinds of paper, some torn
>>from notebooks, as if gathered from many different people who
>>had simply used whatever was on-hand at the time. The pages
>>contained hand-written names and dates at the top of each one.
>>Some even had the signature of the person who wrote it. But what
>>absolutely floored me immediately was the fact that all of them
>>had one or more of the very symbols I had just drawn. And many
>>others that I had never seen but which _fittted_ stylistically
>>with all the other symbols.

>>The dates at the top of the pages scattered their acquisition by
>>Budd over an approximately fifteen year time-line. Mine, now
>>becoming the most recent addition to 'the purple file folder'.

>>I asked Budd; How is this possible? How could we have all drawn
>>the exact same characters/symbols, we didn't know each other.
>>There was simply no way we could have 'contaminated' each other.
>>And scattered over such a long period of time to boot.

>>Budd didn't respond to my inquiry. He opted to let me figure it
>>out for myself. Which was the best/wisest thing.

><snip>

>>To be honest, even left to my own filters and devices, I wasn't
>>left with many palatable options. This symbol business was
>>either; evidence of some kind of psychic phenomena between the
>>contributors, or maybe even evidence of a 'collective
>>consciousness', with ourselves manifesting primal, archaic
>>patterns or constructs from deep within our subconscious.

>>Or...

>>it was evidence that we had all seen and accurately recorded the
>>same thing(s). It would also imply that we all saw the symbols
>>precisely where and under the exact conditions that we were
>>reporting. We all simply and honestly reported that; we saw the
>>same thing under very similar conditions. During an abduction
>>event.

><snip>

>>I signed and dated the page I had written the symbols on and I
>>watched Budd add it to the purple folder. I'm not sure if he was
>>having me on and mimicking, Richard Dryfus in Close Encounters
>>or if the phrase simply fit, but as he closed the folder, he
>>tapped it with his finger and said; "This is important!"

>>Part 2 (For whoever can stand it,) will follow along shortly.

Hi Rick, All,

Rick responded:

>You said you thought it might be "... primal, archaic patterns
>or constructs from deep within our subconscious."

>Building on what you wrote above, and adding to it my clumsy use
>of Occam's Razor, I'd add a fourth option that the symbols might
>be a manifestation of how humans generally categorize written
>language within their subconscious minds.

I didn't take the time to list 'all' of the possible
explanations, but yours is a good candidate as well. Bear in
mind that once you accept that 'one' or more of the possible
explanations seem plausible, you have, A. admitted that there is
indeed 'something' of substance that requires explanation and B.
If you are open to one or more of the possible explanations, in
order to maintain intellectual honesty you must make room for
all of the possible explanations. Which in this case includes
the possibility that all of the abductees saw those symbols
under the conditions we have reported. ie; in direct connection
with a UFO/abduction event. It opens the door to the possibility
that a lot more people need to consider that what is happening
to us, what we have been reporting, is based in physical
reality. (As opposed to Carl Sagan's proposed, 'inner space.')

We need a serious and unbiased investigation. Still. Even after
all these years. We quite simply won't have any reliable answers
or explanations until we do.

More on this subject to follow.


Regards,

John


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