From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:26:48 +0100 Archived: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:16:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Trindade 'Negative Witness' Found >From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:44:28 -0600 >Subject: Re: Trindade 'Negative Witness' Found >>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul> >>To: <post.nul> >>Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:05:20 +0100 >>Subject: Re: Trindade 'Negative Witness' Found >>>From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul> >>>To: post.nul >>>Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 11:42:24 -0300 >>>Subject: Re: Trindade 'Negative Witness' Found ><snip> >>I should also add, having just seen your post about the new >>"second negative witness" interviewed by Borges (the link >>doesn't work for me, BTW)... >Martin, >I also had trouble tracking this down. If you haven't found it >already, try the following (w/ Google translate as necessary): >http://tinyurl.com/3s4vwfp Thanks, Mike. Yes, I did find it. Kentaro also kindly sent me a corrected URL and Portuguese text off-list. Kentaro was certainly right in describing some of Brito's claims as "bombastic"! Borges mentions that Lt Homero was a (claimed) crew witness. Brito doesn't know anything about this, but dismisses him out of hand as permanently drunk, a "wino". Borges informs Brito that the official report mentions Navy sightings on the island before ths ship arrived. Brito is, shall we say, curt: "It's a lie." Borges presses on, pointing out that Capt Bacellar is listed in the Navy's own reports as having been involved in these sightings. Brito dismisses Bacellar as a publicity-seeking liar: "It's a lie. You know the story of five minutes of fame? Five minutes of fame to be named in an encyclopedia published in articles." But surely you can't be suggesting that Bacellar's official report was a lie? prompts Borges. Brito's answer is difficult to translate (Ca=EDram tudo. Nao teve. Sinceramente, nao teve.) but appears to mean that it was all messed up and they "had nothing". Brito adds that if there had been any earlier sightings on the island there would have been photographs. Borges tries him with the story that a Navy Sgt did photograph an object on the island (an unconfirmed rumour, as it happens, not part of the official record; but Brito doesn't know that). Brito is succinct: "Bullshit", he says. Borges asks about Barauna's negatives being shown on board after development as described in detail in the Navy intelligence report. Brito says, "Nao mostrou negativo pra ningu=E9m, pelo contr=E1rio", which I think means, "He didn't show negatives to anyone, on the contrary". Brito then goes on to claim that he was called by an Admiral from navy Intelligence who said, "Carlos, if you can, get a look at the negatives", but apparently Barauna proposed to do some sort of treatment first (presumably the famous "clearing" or reducing ; Brito says "I don't understand photography"). This bit about being on first-name terms with the Admiral is an intriguing part of the story. Brito says that he was never subject to the Navy order to the crew to keep quiet about the sighting (as reported in the press at the time) because he was in a different chain of command. "I was assigned to the Almirante Saldanha as Intelligence. I worked directly with Admiral Aristeas... every Navy ship had to have someone from intelligence, one or two. The reason was that at that time the Communist movement was emerging in Brazil too." In other words Brito was apparently a "political". His job was to spy and inform on possible communist subversives among the crew. It's interesting to speculate on how this might have affected his popularity with other ratings and his acceptance as one of the crew. It would probably be a cliche to picture him as an ostracised, mistrusted and embittered outsider. One other point worth noting. Borges suggests that if the object was in the sky for only 20 seconds (citing some newspaper) then maybe this would explain why some people did not get to see it. Brito responds to the effect that they only wrote 20 seconds just to be able to say something; "What is 20 seconds? It is nothing". An airliner would virtually disappear in 20 seconds, he objects. They had more time, perhaps "a minute, a minute and a half, or two minutes". But "it was a hoax, a conspiracy by a handful of actors". I hope I haven't made too many mistakes in translation and interpretation Martin Shough Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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