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Re: Priests Of High Strangeness - II

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:52:21 +0000
Archived: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 09:26:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Priests Of High Strangeness - II

>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:08:57 +0200
>Subject: Re: Priests Of High Strangeness - II

>>From: Franck Boitte <franckboitte.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 16:06:53 +0200
>>Subject: Re: Priests Of High Strangeness - II

>>>From: Kathy Kasten<catraja.nul>
>>>Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:15:36 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: Priests Of High Strangeness - II

>>>I am still wondering what your friend Marie has to do with
>>>anything. Did you want to brag about knowing her? Fine, but why
>>>connect her to Hopkins. The discussion is about Linda - which
>>>you now state you do not know.

>>Ms. Kasten, List,

>>Mrs Marie-Therese de Brosses has to date authored the only
>>existing documenting french book on abductions. That's why she
>>is still regarded over here by people like Mr. Bourdais an a few
>>others like him as some sort of "abductionist guru", "prophet"
>>or if you like to call her like that, "[French] Priestress of
>>High Strangness".

>>After reading her book, I contacted Mrs. de Brosses. I told her
>>I wanted to draw possible links with a RR4 case I was then
>>investigating in France in hope to get factual info about a RR4
>>file she claimed to have investigated in Canada.

>>The case dealt about a visibly drug addicted and deranged woman
>>who presented herself under the nickname of "Sarah (not, mind
>>you, Elizabeth!) Smith" and my curiosity dealt about pictures
>>that experiencer said to have made. I'm sorry to have to say
>>Mrs. de Brosses proved herself less than cooperative and bluntly
>>refused to answer my questions or even discuss the matter, even
>>after repeated morte and more polite trials on my side, under
>>the provision that "I'd been perversely and offensively
>>attacking her".

>>That's why, Ms. Kasten, I completely agree with you. What has
>>the sympathy credit Mr. G. Bourdais may, for whatever reason(s)
>>he has regarding his old friend Mrs des Brosses, to do with the
>>"Lina Cortile" affair and what Mrs. Rainey has to tell us about
>>the bias and pre-conceptions of her former husband's so-called
>>"scientific investigation"?

>To Franck and the List

>Here we go again, this time with Franck Boitte! I wanted to quit
>the debate but I cannot let this pass.

>Mr Boitte: Marie-Therese was quite wise not to answer you, as
>everybody can see on reading your comical post.

>Talking about "gurus", I recall that you once told me that
>Jacques Vallee was one of the ten greatest men of the 20th
>Century! With worshipers like you, he is the one who deserves
>the titles of guru and "priest of high strangeness".

>As for Marie-Therese, here is, again her message of support of
>Budd Hopkins:, at Alien Jigsaw:



>"I have been deeply shocked by Carol Rainey's article and don't
>want to review it here in detail; however, what I can say is that I
>am an old friend of Budd's (since 1992). I have witnessed his work
>and I have been impressed by his behaviour, and I know that he is
>very careful when he works with abductees. This is not just a
>compliment from a friend: I have had the opportunity to validate
>this in many cases. I also say this as someone who has spent seven
>years studying at Paris University and who has also spent many
>years studying this disturbing phenomenon.

>Budd not only spent hours and hours discussing the subject with
>me, but he also allowed me to join him in his support group. He
>showed me videos of his regression sessions and I was able to
>see - firsthand -- how he carefully avoided leading questions. He
>also allowed me to speak directly with some of his abductees
>without being present so they were able to feel comfortable in
>their conversations with me.

>Budd is a very dedicated person whose aim is not to make money! I
>always saw him giving his time generously without ever asking for
>any payment. His goal was, and always has been, to understand the
>phenomenon and to try to help people.

>Budd had the courage to open this Pandora's box, and I am among
>those who want this important work continue."

>-- Marie-Therese de Brosses, Author and Investigative Journalist

Once again, yet another person - who has not viewed Rainey's
film - has a comment completely off the point of discussion.

Budd Hopkins was deceived by a grifter. Not the first time a
researcher was lead a stray by a _volunteer_.

How many times have you been deceived, Glidas, because you were
so focused on _getting at the truth_? Is that what is going on
here? The fact that you need to pretend you always know your
_reporter of an event_ down to their very toes? Give it up!


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