From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:45:16 +0100 Archived: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 07:28:43 -0500 Subject: Types Of Civilization [was: Mind Control] Hello List This is to do with that last thread - hopefully aimed at estimating our ability to recognize and maybe communicate with real alien `intelligent' species. You've probably read of Nikolai Kardashev's rating of possible civilizations - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale which is based on energy-control and range of influence: basically a Type I controls a planet's energy, Type II a solar system's (inc. the Sun) and Type III controls a galaxy's [some folk have added refinements or gone further - like one chap suggests a Type Omega which controls a Universe]. In view of Ray Kurzweil's expected or upcoming Singularity, which he seems to think will enable Transhumanism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism it would also seem necessary to rate civilizations on their ability to recognize, quantify and `control' (in the nicer sense) the content, motivations and workings of their own minds; otherwise that `singularity' could be a terrible no-way-back mistake. More importantly maybe, a civilization fit and indeed able to contact and communicate with other intelligent species should at least qualify as a Type I - able to control their own minds. As you've probably guessed, my view is that we don't yet qualify. Cheers Ray D Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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