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Re: MJ-12 Redux

From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:57:20 -0300
Archived: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:23:01 -0400
Subject: Re: MJ-12 Redux


>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:20:31 +0000
>Subject: Re: MJ-12 Redux

>>From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:35:17 -0300
>>Subject: Re: MJ-12 Redux

>>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:51:11 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: MJ-12 Redux

>>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
>>>To: post.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 21:09:10 EDT
>>>Subject: Re: MJ-12 Redux

<snip>

>Okay, everybody, I didn't want to do this but pretending my
>response is because I am gullible? I don't think so. Sit back
>because this is going to take a while to share.

>1} I know all of the MJ-12 documents are fakes because the
>committee that was advising President Truman was not called MJ-
>12. MJ-12 was the name Bill Moore fished out of the ethers of
>archived and defunct covert government projects.

>2} At one time in my life I had a couple of dinner meetings and
>private conversations with the two people involved in
>perpetrating the first "MJ-12" documents. They were very
>specific about how the "emergence" of the fake documents took
>place.

>3} One of the individuals attempted to involve me in two
>different ufo/aliens-are-among us hoaxes. He ran into a wall
>with me because I researched the two items he was pretending
>were real. You could thank me for stopping yet another couple of
>hoaxes someone was getting ready to introduce to the ufo
>community.

>4} During research for a book I wrote, I dug through government
>documents and discovered the name and personnel of the real
>working group. So, I had the real info when the next set of "MJ-
>12" documents came along.

>5} All sets of "MJ-12" documents do not ever mention the names
>of the real people, except the head of the working group, who
>participated in the real behind the scenes development of the
>real space program. It was an easy call for me and not based on
>gullibility.

>Frankly, Stan, based on my research, I have always thought you
>were the gullible one.

>6} Because I knew how the first set of "MJ-12" documents were
>presented to the public, it was easy for me to follow the
>timeline trail back to the emergence of the second set of "MJ-
>12." Therefore, I determined anything called "MJ-12" documents
>were fakes. They are not even very good fakes as truly
>convincing propaganda/disinfo should have real information
>embedded in it. One name of one of the real head's of the
>working group doesn't cut it with me.

>7} Because I trust no one, and require background information
>from at least two sources, I am considered a bitch of a
>researcher and very difficult to deal with. Just ask Bill Moore.


What a fascinating post. Hard to find any facts but loads of
claims. Why not just say "trust me"? No names no facts, no
Evidence.

Even if we are so generous as to say that KK never lies, how
does that make anything you said true? Which documents are you
talking about? Set 1 and set 2? Newer version? Not very
specific.

Are we really supposed to believe that the first 3 Directors of
Central Intelligence Souers,RHH,Vandenberg, the first secretary
of Defense,Forrestal, and Roosevelt's "science advisor", Bush,
weren't involved?

Where are the specific things wrong with EBD, TF, CT? Details
please.

Where did I go wrong in my long 4 part article on my website or
have you not bothered to read it because you are psychic?


Stan Friedman

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