From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 18:20:09 +0100 Archived: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:31:07 -0400 Subject: Re: Rendlesham Was Not ET Says Prime Witness >From: Carol Maltby <carolmaltby.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:08:27 -0400 >Subject: Re: Rendlesham Was Not ET Says Prime Witness >>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul> >>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul> >>Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:55:42 +0100 >>Subject: Rendlesham Was Not ET Says Prime Witness >>I am unsure of the rules of Facebook... if somebody pastes >>something on a page, is it in the public domain? >>Gambling that it's OK, on my Facebook page's Newsfeed appeared a >>current discussion about life in the universe and whether we >>might be the first. >>(Snip) >Dave, >I haven't been able to find a source for this, on Facebook or >elsewhere. Jim Penniston has a Facebook account, which I found >through his participation (and yours) in the Justice For The >Bentwaters 81st Security Police At Rendlesham Forest 1980 FB >group. >For some reason a FB search for James Penniston does not bring >up this James Penniston, though you can get to his profile from >posts in the Justice... group. I haven't run into that before. >Penniston's FB account is set to private, so those who are not >signed on as his 'friends' will not see any details, such as >conversations on his Wall. I'm not sure how the newsfeeds apps >work. >Anything that is on a FB Wall that is not publicly visible >should have a reasonable expectation of privacy, at least in >theory. Netiquette and ethics would suggest that before quoting >elsewhere, permission should be obtained from the participants >(much like Errol's guidelines on this List). >The writers own the rights to their words no matter what, and >they are not public domain unless those copyrights are >relinquished, or permissible under a stated Creative Commons >agreement. Fair Use standards might apply to short excerpts that >are publicly visible. Copyright issues regarding internet >material may depend on which country the servers are located in. >As with many issues, there are a lot of grey areas between the >spirit of the law and the letter of the law. When in doubt, aim >to be thoughtful and ethical in your cutting and pasting of >online material. Carol I now gather that Jim Penniston, a Facebook 'friend' of Nick Pope posted his comments on Nick's 'wall' as part of a thread about Nick's Royal Albert Hall talk. I am also a 'friend' of Nick Pope and Jim Penniston which presumably is why the item appeared on my Facebook. Nick tells me his settings are 'relatively open', so posting a comment on his wall means it's likely to be seen by numerous people. I appreciate your advice about being " thoughtful and ethical in cutting and pasting of online material" but my view is that if you want to keep something private, posting it on a social networking site would be unwise. The law must set its own standards but I would argue that the responsibility of guarding privacy lies primarily with the poster. As for "writers owning the rights to their words no matter what", it seems this isn't true as far as Facebook is concerned. According to this link: http://tiny.cc/r28nu Facebook has a license to do whatever they want with your content! Facebook rules state: "By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing." According to the legal writer on that link: "this means you're giving up copyright control of your material. If you upload a photo to Facebook, they can sell copies of it without paying you a cent. If you write lengthy notes (or import your blog posts!), Facebook can turn them into a book, sell a million copies, and pay you nothing." Oh, the purpose of this post was rather to prompt reaction to Penniston's views rather than discuss Facebook! Dave Haith Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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