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Re: YouTube Channel seeingUFOsPA

From: Diana Cammack <cammack.nul>
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:33:07 +0200
Archived: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:14:13 -0400
Subject: Re: YouTube Channel seeingUFOsPA


>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:13:57 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: YouTube Channel seeingUFOsPA

>>From: J. Maynard Gelinas <j.maynard.gelinas.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 15:02:34 -0400
>>Subject: Re: YouTube Channel seeingUFOsPA

>>I think the conversion to tinyurl wiped out my original link in
>>that post. It now goes to a different YouTube video than the one
>>I intended, I think because it linked to the YouTube channel
>>and not the specific video. This should be the correct link:

>>http://tinyurl.com/33j4ryg

>>Following up,

>>I've emailed a Mr. John Ventre, who is listed as the MUFON
>>director in Pennsylvania, about reports that he had gone to her
>>house and conducted an investigation. He replied that while
>>MUFON has a policy of not releasing official reports and
>>conclusions to the public, he did go to visit her home and spent
>>two hours there. He stated that he, "spent 2 hrs with her and
>>only saw planes...."

>My guess: airplane with headlights traveling toward her at
>nearly constant altitude, that passes her and continues onward
>to he right, eventually reaching such a low angular elevation
>that it is lost in the trees.

>The initial direction of the hypothetical plane was just to its
>left of traveling directly toward her, or, from her perspective,
>it was traveling in a direction that would make it pass just to
>her right.

>It may have made a slight left turn just before it reached the
>maximum angular elevation at the time it started to move rapidly
>rightward on the video.

>Airplane headlights, when viewed head on can be seen for miles,
>maybe 20 miles or more. When viewed with night vision device
>they can "bloom out" (overexpose) even when miles away.

>At 180 mph or 3 miles per minute, if seen when 20 miles away
>would take 6 minutes to get close - if going more slowly, would
>take longer, if going more rapidly would take less -) which can
>explain why the light was seen for so long.

>I have seen head-on airplane lights and have been 'astounded' at
>how long it can take for the plane to 'reveal' itself by
>appearing to turn and move away.

>Note that if a plane moves toward you at constant altitude its
>initial angular elevation will be low - e.g. 2 miles up, 20
>miles away is about 6 deg elevation and as it approaches the
>angular elevation will increase, i.e., at 2 miles up and 2 miles
>distance the angle is 45 deg.

>Initially the increase in angular elevation will be very slow,
>but as the poane approaches the angular elevation will increase
>more and more rapidly until it reaches its maximum angular
>elevation.

>In this video the light initially very slowly creeps upward, but
>then the angular elevation increases rapidly to a maximum value
>about the time the flashing begins. Then it moves across her
>field of view and the angular elevation drops again as it moves
>away.

As the sound of an aircraft going overhead would be obvious to
the camera person, your analysis means that this is a deliberate
fake, not simply a misperception of lights in the sky. If
correct, that changes the nature of the case altogether.


Diana



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