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Re: Black Holes

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 01:14:41 -0000
Archived: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 06:17:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Black Holes

>From: Bert Reijersen van Buuren <bert.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:39:56 +0100
>Subject: Re: Black Holes


>... there should be a stream of energy flowing from space
>towards matter and we see this as gravity. Matter must therefore
>convert that energy into something else like radiation or
>wathever. But it is just a theory (and it gives me a headache).

Hello Bert,

The question is much simpler for me, as I'm relying only on
observation (and a small theoretical step which I regard as

First, theoretical 'black holes' ('infinite' mass/density +
'event horizons') would, if they existed in the visible
universe, be unmistakable. The dragging of background starlight
(necessary if 'event horizons' existed) would make them into
huge targets of light, each surrounded by a large area of
blackness - no background stars / galaxies. We don't ever see
those things, or anything remotely like them.

Second the ubiquity of 'jets', which we _do_ see all around the
universe, tells me that accreting masses will always jet, at a
limit of angular momentum. Which is why we see jets on all
scales, even within our own atmosphere ('blue jets'). What do
you think causes the 'bars' or initial spiral outbursts of our
type of galaxy?

And the fact of 'jetting' tells me that no accreting mass can
ever grow larger than its 'jetting limit'. Therefore there are
no black holes.


Ray D

BTW - mainstream astro-phys is stuck in denial, still claiming
that all 'violent' phenomena are due to 'explosions'. But
'explosions' just don't fit the bill for most 'violent'
phenomena above the stellar scale - including distant gamma-ray
bursts, which we see because we happen to be in-line with a jet.
That explains both their intensity and the puzzle of the
apparent smallness of their originating bodies - which is
(visibly) only the width of the jet.

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