From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 01:19:32 +0100 Archived: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:15:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Berwyns Mountains Cover-Up Continues >From: Gerald O'Connell <goc.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 14:51:22 +0100 >Subject: Re: Berwyns Mountains Cover-Up Continues <snip> >They will always appear to diverge. That is the drum you need to >be banging if you want to rule out a meteor shower. Hello Gerald & Martin, I'm not concerned with making a case, not even for this List. What I want is for my own conclusions to be based on facts and on earliest (uncontaminated) reports - not on later propaganda. Here's my sitrep so far:- For some weeks before the Berwyn event there were various sightings in that area of North Wales and Merseyside, with much involvement of military, including apparent RAF attempts at interception. Resident ufologists and forteans were reported as saying there was `something going on' and that the military seemed `jumpy' or `expectant'. On the night of the event it was reported that a bright object was tracked travelling south from Scotland towards North Wales and to the Berwyns. At the same time another bright object was seen approaching and crossing the east coast of England; it was logged by two amateur astronomers (in contact by phone across England) and their extended track of it extended westward to North Wales, i.e. to the Berwyns. All the above was known at the time and much was even reported, including a BBC account of the two bright objects and of their tracking by amateur astronomers. On the night of the event the police reactions seemed way `over the top', including the fact that non-local police (said to be from Barmouth, about an hour's drive to the west) were on the scene immediately. How did they know something would happen in an hour's time? The police refusal of civilian mountain-rescue help (immediately available) and the subsequent (next 24 hours) arrival of military team(s) seems downright irresponsible if an aircrash had been suspected. In addition the police weren't interested in the offer of help (by phone) from the district nurse - she had to make her own way, by car, towards the Berwyns from the south- west, not knowing where to go or where to look. The impact/earthquake was heard over a wide area - but the Brit Geological Service (BGS) seemed strangely reluctant to release the usual depth/epicenter data which would normally have been available. [Scott Felton has tried F.o.I requests to find out what the NW Police and BGS and military have been keeping secret - details on his webpage below.] Now all those early (uncontaminated) reports are coverd by a thick layer of denial and obfuscation - the BBC is mostly in `silent-mode' and those several amateur astronomers also seem to have been driven into silence and anonymity. For the events `on the ground' of that night you can't do better than Scott's interview - at: http://tinyurl.com/yahs9pw and the webpage set up by him and the local group at: http://tinyurl.com/3xmu6r2 BTW - one might get confused by the mountains' names. Basically, Cader Bronwen is the northerly `mountain' and Cader Berwyn is the southerly one - about four or five miles between their `peaks'. I've been in the area and those 'mountains' are really high, rounded and wide shouldered hills - so you can't see any peaks or even uplands from the valleys below, only the immediate valley walls rising up. In addition the small valleys and their roads are quite twisting, so vision is usually limited to a few hundred yards in most directions, until you get up towards the tops. Cheers Ray D Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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