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Re: BLT Research Medium's UFO Photos

From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:34:07 -0200
Archived: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:08:47 -0500
Subject: Re: BLT Research Medium's UFO Photos


>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul>
>Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:13:01 -0000
>Subject: Re: BLT Research Medium's UFO Photos

>>From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:16:48 -0200
>>Subject: Re: BLT Research Medium's UFO Photos

>>Broeke is known for several hoaxes, and has been exposed also by
>>UFO Watchdog's Royce Myers.

>>http://www.ufowatchdog.com/comments.html

>>I've blogged about his latest 'UFO' photos and previous hoaxes
>>- it's the last case:

>>http://forgetomori.com/2009/ufos/ufo-photos/debunking-roundup/

<snip>

>>As Patrick Gross has noted, not only is Broeke a noted hoaxer,
>>he's actually the main witness in some BLT papers hailed as
>>"scientific proof" of crop circle anomalies.
>>http://www.ufologie.net/htm/crop.htm
<snip>

>Your assertions that because with cut outs you can explain how
>such photos may have been produced, does not of course prove
>that this was the way it happened - no more than counterfeit
>bank notes prove all notes are faked.

Hello Dave, you should read this in HAL9000's voice...

Indeed. But when we have convincing evidence that that was the
way he hoaxed before, then the assertion gains more weight. See
below.

>Similarly statements that Broeke is a 'noted hoaxer' seem to be
>based on little, other than suspicions of faking or attempts to
>show how he may have hoaxed.

Did you see his alien which was in fact a cutout from Reader's
Digest, that is, he used a common available photo of which the
source was located? This is no suspicion of hoax, I don't think
any reasonable person would believe his excuse that he somehow
psychically materialized the exact photo published on a magazine
in front of his camera.

http://www.skepsis.nl/mudman.html

>My position is this. Apart from laboratory experiments in which
>Broeke is monitored by witnesses and cameras to document these
>photos paranormally appearing on camera screens, I don't see how
>anybody can prove or disprove this case.

In several of these more recent photos one can see a line
connecting the "UFO" to the border of the image. And the
anomalies always appears at the extremities of the photo frame.
That's because it's Broeke simply holding things in front of his
camera. He doesn't even throw them in the air.

This cannot be definitely proven unless we record him actually
doing it, true, but again, as I originally wrote, the fact the
images reflect back the camera flash is indeed already proof
they were very near the camera (as the flash range is limited),
ergo, they are really small objects. Furthermore, from the way
some of the objects reflects the flash, one can also see clear
evidence they are flat objects. So one has to assume these were
either real miniature, bidimensional alien spaceships flying in
front of the camera, or that Broeke was holding cutouts in front
of the camera,

And we have clear cases where Broeke used common available
photos as cutouts and claimed them to be real alien images. The
conclusion is inevitable.

>Of course the similarities to the Meier photos are to be noted,
>which probably works in favour rather than against Broeke, in
>the sense that who would make cut outs of discredited Meier when
>you could sculpt some impressive paper discs of your own?

I don't know. I know that Broeke used a cutout from Reader's
Digest, which he should have imagined someone would eventually
find out. But he took not one but several photos of it and
claimed them to be a real alien materialized in his house.

Broeke is a hoaxer. Talbott seems to genuinely believe him, even
though she knows about the Reader's Digest and other objections
aired about his photos.


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