From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:13:01 -0000
Archived: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:05:00 -0500
Subject: Re: BLT Research Medium's UFO Photos


>From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:16:48 -0200
>Subject: Re: BLT Research Medium's UFO Photos

>>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul>
>>Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:45:28 -0000
>>Subject: BLT Research  Medium's "UFO" Photos

>>The following was sent to me by researcher Nancy Talbott
>>concerning her work with Dutch medium Robbert van den Broeke.

<snip>

>>http://www.bltresearch.com/robbert/ufophotos.php

>Broeke is known for several hoaxes, and has been exposed also by
>UFO Watchdog's Royce Myers.

>http://www.ufowatchdog.com/comments.html

>I've blogged about his latest 'UFO' photos and previous hoaxes
>- it's the last case:

>http://forgetomori.com/2009/ufos/ufo-photos/debunking-roundup/

>It's not only obvious he created these images by having cutouts
>placed in front of his camera lens, you can actually tell he did
>it this way because in some photos the cutouts are reflecting
>back the camera flash. That would not have happened if the
>object (or cutout) was actually distant (>5m), or if the object
>itself was distant and glowing, which would illuminate the
>surrounding area.

>As Patrick Gross has noted, not only is Broeke a noted hoaxer,
>he's actually the main witness in some BLT papers hailed as
>"scientific proof" of crop circle anomalies.

>http://www.ufologie.net/htm/crop.htm


Hi Kentaro

I am already familiar with your highly entertaining and - mostly
- convincing efforts at exposing hoaxes etc.

I had previously checked out the links you provide and have to
say I do not find there, any evidence that Broeke is hoaxing
these photos.

Conversely I have seen no convincing evidence to prove these
photos are paranormal - unless one takes the word of Nancy
Talbott who says she's witnessed the pictures appearing
countless times with no sleight of hand from Broeke.

Your assertions that because with cut outs you can explain how
such photos may have been produced, does not of course prove
that this was the way it happened - no more than counterfeit
bank notes prove all notes are faked.

Similarly statements that Broeke is a 'noted hoaxer' seem to be
based on little, other than suspicions of faking or attempts to
show how he may have hoaxed.

My position is this. Apart from laboratory experiments in which
Broeke is monitored by witnesses and cameras to document these
photos paranormally appearing on camera screens, I don't see how
anybody can prove or disprove this case.

Without such experiments or unless Broeke is searched and paper
cut outs matching the UFOs pictured, are found on him, the jury
remains out.

Of course the similarities to the Meier photos are to be noted,
which probably works in favour rather than against Broeke, in
the sense that who would make cut outs of discredited Meier when
you could sculpt some impressive paper discs of your own?

Further controversy is bound to follow because I gather photos
of the dead produced on cameras by Broeke will shortly be posted
on the web.

What I will say is that I find it unlikely that Nancy Talbott
whom I know and respect, would devote so many years of her life
to this case without discovering somewhere along the line that
she was being hoodwinked.

However it finally turns out, I for one, admire her courage in
sticking her neck out in going public over something so bizarre,
but which she "knows" is genuine.


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