From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:32:26 -0700
Archived: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:37:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Lonnie Zamora Eulogy...


>From: Ray Stanford <opus22.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:10:21 -0500
>Subject: Lonnie Zamora: Eulogy...

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>The Fake (Substituted) Symbol:

>1bd3f37.jpg

>What Zamora Really Saw And Reported To His Co-Workers And To
>Captain Richard T. Holder:

>1bd3f66.jpg

>Every law-enforcement officer who talked to Zamora within
>minutes to an hour or so after the event, including police
>dispatcher Mike Martinez, told me unequivocally that what Zamora
>really saw on the object was, as Martinez quoted Zamora in
>Spanish, "...un 'V' invertido, con tres l=EDneas debajo," meaning
>exactly what it says, "an inverted 'V' with three lines beneath
>it", and not the thing he was drawing and telling others that he
>saw, after Holder's request.

A trivial point perhaps, but the attached image of the 'real'
symbol would probably be described in Spanish as "... un 'V'
invertido, con tres l=EDneas a trav=E9s de ella", or words to that
effect, i.e., an inverted 'V' with three lines _across_ or
_through_ it, rather than beneath it.

The Martinez quote suggests something different than the
attached image, although "beneath it" could conceivably be
interpreted as meaning that if the symbol were in the horizontal
plane, then the three lines would be (vertically) 'beneath' or
'below' the inverted "V", i.e., the "V" is superimposed on top
of the three lines. This seems like an odd description for such
a figure, at least compared to the one suggested above,
particularly given that the "V" and the lines were the same
color (red).

Per Ray's book (in chapter The Hours Just After, also Appendix
A), Zamora apparently made his own drawing of the symbol just
prior to the arrival of Sergeant Chavez, and independent of the
drawing produced in collaboration with Captain Holder. Does
anyone know the disposition or whereabouts of this first
drawing?

The symbol details are not crucial to the overall story, but it
would be nice to be able to confirm or refute it's alleged
resemblance to, say, a Hughes Aircraft logo. Difficult to do
that when it's actual appearance is poorly established.


Mike



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