From: Carol Maltby <carolmaltby.nul>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:30:08 -0500
Archived: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:35:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Lonnie Zamora Eulogy...


>From: Ray Stanford <opus22.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:10:21 -0500
>Subject: Lonnie Zamora: Eulogy...

>Lonnie Zamora (1933 - 2009): Eulogy, to a Man of His Word, and
>The Finest Witness One Could Ever Interview...

>By Ray Stanford, author of the 211-page book on the Socorro case
>>On Monday night, November 2, 2009, 'Lonnie' Zamora, likely North
>America's most highly respected witness to something that the
>U.S. Air Force's chief scientific investigator of UFOs
>eventually admitted was, to use his own term, a "close encounter
>of the third kind" died of what a Socorro Police spokesman
>described as a heart attack.

<snip>

>Secondly, about the red shape Zamora saw on the middle-side of
>the ellipsoid-shaped craft: ZAMORA HAD, in his own mind, TAKEN
>ANOTHER OATH TO THE GOVERNMENT HE LOVED: On that same April 24,
>1964, evening, Captain Ord/C, Richard T. Holder, U.S. Army,
>095052, Up-Range Commander at White Sand's Stallion Site, had
>told the witness, as Zamora described to me, after much coaxing,
>on April 29, 1964, "If I were you, I wouldn't describe the
>symbol you saw on the side of the vehicle to anyone except
>official investigators."

>Well, Zamora _agreed_. Then, I have reasons to believe, Holder
>drew the now familiar vertical arrow with an arc over it and a
>line under it [A copy of that original, clearly drawn in its
>first version by Holder - just compare it to Zamora's copies of
>that fake symbol - is in my files.] and then Holder had Zamora
>sign under it, as though THAT were what he saw. I am now
>convinced enough to tell anyone - since Lonnie Zamora is now
>gone, and there is no risk to embarrass him for participating in
>the cover-up - the vertical arrow with an arc over it and the
>line under it IS NOT WHAT ZAMORA SAW. Lonnie kept that promise
>to Holder, not to reveal what he actually saw, for the rest of
>his life. Zamora had agreed with Holder that putting out the
>fake symbol would conveniently identify any copy-cat hoaxers
>because they would describe the fake symbol instead of the REAL
>one. I agree that Zamora made the right choice, in that case,
>because it surely set a trap for hoaxers and even for
>hallucinating persons.

>The Fake (Substituted) Symbol:

>1bd3f37.jpg

>What Zamora Really Saw And Reported To His Co-Workers And To
>Captain Richard T. Holder:

>1bd3f66.jpg

>Every law-enforcement officer who talked to Zamora within
>minutes to an hour or so after the event, including police
>dispatcher Mike Martinez, told me unequivocally that what Zamora
>really saw on the object was, as Martinez quoted Zamora in
>Spanish, "...un 'V' invertido, con tres l=EDneas debajo," meaning
>exactly what it says, "an inverted 'V' with three lines beneath
>it", and not the thing he was drawing and telling others that he
>saw, after Holder's request.

Ray, thank you for that thoughtful eulogy, and your updating on
the incident.

I'm a bit puzzled by the symbol attached as  1bd3f66.jpg, which
you say is the real one seen by Zamora. It could be described as
"an inverted 'V' with three lines beneath it" only if it were a
three dimensional symbol with the V superimposed on it, or a two
dimensional rendering of such a thing. Your drawing attached
here does not describe either of those.

=46rom the Zamora description, I'd think it would look more like a
witch's hat over an equal sign. More like this, rotated 90
degrees to the right:

<III

Can you shed some light on this?

Carol Maltby


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