From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:53:08 -0400
Archived: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:56:22 -0500
Subject: Re: The Dudley's Merry Hill UFO Video


>From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:34:04 EST
>Subject: Re: The Dudley's Merry Hill UFO Video

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:35:43 -0400
>>Subject: Re: The Dudley's Merry Hill UFO Video

>>>From: Greg Boone <Evolbaby.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:17:38 EDT
>>>Subject: Re: The Dudley's Merry Hill UFO Video

>>>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>>>Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:33:47 -0300
>>>>Subject: Re: The Dudley's Merry Hill UFO Video

>><snip>

>>>We know what we've seen, touched, photographed. I have a huge
>>>family in the U.S. we were here way before there was a U.S. we
>>>work in all branches of government and society and we
>>>communicate. There are names of forebearers on monuments going
>>>back to the Revolutionary War for their service. New ones from
>>>Iraq and Afghanistan. Like you I do things the old fashioned way
>>>by asking and going to see for myself. I trust the collected
>>>phenomena and when all the pieces fit it says something is
>>>there. I also trust my own senses especially when there are
>>>others present. Just because the others present don't trust our
>>>own government, press, and people in the UFO field doesn't mean
>>>that data doesn't exist. It takes manners, trust, and time.

>>Just so we are clear, your take on - just for example - the
>>Hudson Valley of the early 1980s event is that these were top
>>secret American aircraft? Barring that, some of these were top
>>secret aircraft of some other country on this planet? In other
>>words what we call the UFO phenomenon is simply US technology on
>>the march or again that of some other country? So, case solved
>>for you?

>I have no idea where you come up with these off the rail
>extrapolations.

Read your last email to me.

>The aircraft are real. I've been told to my face two different
>stories of their origins. One is that they're ours but top
>secret, another is that they are not ours which means they're
>somebody else's.

Our's huh?. So they decided to fly them over Westchester, New York
to keep them "really" secret.

>That means they're from another country or some other source if
>we're to believe the sources. I went to the history books to
>study up on the flying wing technologies of the past 100 years.

Flying wing has nothing to do with it.

>I drove the JPL and NASA guys crazy with UFO inquiries as well
>as the aviation experts from dozens of countries. Since you're
>hatted in the history of aviation here are two links that have
>data that you can easily recognize and do some digging yourself
>regarding the flying wing tech.

I'm sure I know more about that tech than you do.

Had a Horten STOL kit on my Cessna 172. That was their lasting
legacy to aviation plus whatever STOL technology the US used
later on in the B-2, but I doubt they used very little. It took
composite technology and honeycomb engineering [unheard of by
Horten to really make the wing stealthy-but of course only at
night. C

You can't show off that way though so lets put all of those
lights on it [pick your own favorite, top secret aircraft] fly
it way below stall speeds over the Hudson Valley - in fact lets
shut the engines down altogether - about 6 years before formal
announcement re the B-2 in Palmdale, California on Nov.22, 1988
and five years before it actually flew in '87.

Present at the rollout were:

Thomas V. Jones Chairman and CEO at Northrup

USAF Secretary Edward C. Aldridge

USAF Chief of Staff General Lawrence Welch

Director of the B-2 Program Office(USAF) Brig. General Richard
Scofield

And one pilot from AW&ST who flew over the ceremony and shot
pictures from above despite the company trying to conceal the
B-2's planform.

The USAF let its contract for the B-2 in 1981 to begin research
and developement and for eventual deployment in 1995. The plant
to build the 'fleet' was begun in 1986 with the proto type
rolling off the line at the original Northrup plant in 1987.
Pretty neat trick flying these top secret aircraft over the
Hudson Valley some 5 years before one was actually built. You
should really read up on this stuff, Greg, get your head out of
the NAZI nonsense your group friends are feeding you.


Don Ledger





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