From: Stanton T Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:43:04 -0400
Archived: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:32:33 -0500
Subject: Re: Former Defence Minister Maintains UFOs


>From: Alfred Lehmberg <alienview.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:24:46 -0600
>Subject: Re: Former Defence Minister Maintains UFOs 'Irrefutable'

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>>That said, Mr. Hellyer seems better courted than _completely_
>>castigated, eh? I know a guy who kicks himself because he had a
>>first crack at Hellyer but otherwise distracted, passed him off
>>to another guy.

>The "guy" is me... When Strange Days... Indeed was being broadcast
>in Toronto and Montreal, a friend of Hellyer's called the Toronto
>station and told Victor Viggiani and I that the former politician
>was "interested in UFOs". After a second call I suggested that he
>leave Hellyer's number with the screener and we would call him.

>At the time and trusting Victor and I were on the same page
>regarding UFO phenomena, the people and the politics, I suggested
>that Victor give Hellyer a call. A mistake.

>Victor and Mike Bird - a very nice man whose mind is, in the eyes
>of more than a few, a little too open - contacted Hellyer and Bird
>introducing him to the Corso book. This without my knowledge.

>When Bird and Viggiani staged the Toronto Disclosure Conference in
>2005, my jaw dropped and Stan Friedman, sitting in front of Mike
>Woods and I, slumped in his seat, as Hellyer told the audience
>and press that he was convinced that UFOs existed. He then went
>on to extol Corso's book.

>It eventually transpired that Victor Viggiani, who I regarded as
>a close friend, had his own agenda as far as ufology is concerned.
>He walked off SDI in May 2006 during Dave Furlotte's 'Take On It'.
>Dave was pointing out that Steven Greer, being brought to Toronto
>by Bird and Viggiani - and plugged on-air by Viggiani - was not a
>man held in regard by this field. I've had no contact with either
>Viggiani nor Bird.

>Hellyer, a ufological naif, has been badly exploited by the exopols
>and has nothing to offer ufology. He merely creates misinformed
>distraction and opinion based on dubious sources. And despite what
>he and others now claim there is little or no evidence to suggest
>he was in some sort of ufological-loop as Defence Minister.

>And yes, I do regret not contacting him myself in the first place...

>ebk


I did indeed slump in Toronto both at the auditorium presentation
by Mr. Hellyer and at the Press Conference.

I do hope I am as healthy as he looked at his age, but that I
continue to use verifiable evidence which he did not. At the
press conference he strongly claimed that he had not had access
to classified information about UFOs.


Stan Friedman



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