From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:37:45 +0000
Archived: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:49:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Discreditation Of Ufology


>From: Franklin Fields <fields.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:07:32 -0500 (EST)
>Subject: Re: Discreditation Of Ufology

Hi Frank,

<snip>

>I could not agree more Joe. Again, I said it would be naive to
>dismiss the possibility of disinformation. I am not limiting it
>to skeptics. I pointed out that the CIA and others have used
>disinformation extensively in the past.

<snip>

I have to confess that I am blissfully ignorant about the
situation in the USA. I know that historically, the US
intelligence agencies did take an active interest in ufology.

Here in the UK, the authorities generally hold anything to do
with UFOs at arms length, but there have been exceptions as Nick
Redfern discusses in his book 'On the trail of the Saucer Spies'.

The only active interest in the UK was not directly concerned
with ufology per se, but the activities of some ufologists
outside of ufology. Some people drawn to ufology have anarchic or
otherwise offbeat interests and beliefs. British ufology was (and
may even still be) used as a cover for extreme right-wing
activities. Some elements within British ufology were involved
with the Animal Liberation Front which had carried out letter
bombing campaigns amongst other disruptive and dangerous
activities. Naturally the authorities took an active interest in
thos individuals, but ufology was incidental to their interest.

There is some evidence here that British intelligence took a
passive interest in ufology, with representatives attending UFO
conferences incognito. This was probably in the context of the
risk of exposure of classified projects through ufological
activity. Some ufologists (Tim Good and Matthew Williams for
example) took to hanging around sensitive military installations,
and consequently drew interest from the authorities.

It seems reasonable to me to assume that any military interest in
ufology is only indirectly associated with UFOs. Having said
that, even an indirect interest might encourage the authorities
to attempt to undermine ufology, and in the past, this might have
been best achieved through debunking tactics. My point is that
using groups like the Disclosure Project and the Exopolitics
Movement would be a more effective channel for any such operation
today.

The intelligence services are confronted today with far more
serious threats than the examples given above, and I would expect
any activity by them to be targeted towards the least cost,
maximum effect. Paying a handful of 'debunkers' to spout off
doesn't seem very efficient to me.

In spite of what I wrote above, my own opinion is that the
authorities only exercise a passive interest in ufology today,
but were they to take an active interest, they would use the
channels mentioned above.


Cheers,

Joe




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