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Re: MoD File Release

From: Franklin D. Fields <fields.nul>
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 09:50:34 -0400 (EDT)
Archived: Sun, 25 May 2008 06:29:07 -0400
Subject: Re: MoD File Release


>From: Stanton T Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 21:24:08 -0300
>Subject: Re: MoD File Release

>>From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 13:10:04 -0600
>>Subject: Re: MoD File Release

<snip>

>Mike,

>It should be noted that in the USA besides the USAF there are
>such intelligence agencies as the CIA, DIA, NSA, NRO, AFOSI,
>ONI. Some certainly have had UFO collections.

>Surely there must be similar low profile groups in the UK whose
>data would not be in the not very classified MOD files?


Also, there must be similar exceptions built into the UK
disclosure law. In the U.S. a list of 9 sections do not apply
and are used routinely to withhold information. Notice the
President can just issue an Executive order. If you read the
court cases, you will see that these sections have been expanded
in practice. The loop holes are so large the act is almost
meaningless.

The relevant section is quoted below from (US) THE FREEDOM OF
INFORMATION ACT (5 U.S.C. =A7 552)...

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This section does not apply to matters that are:

(1)(A) specifically authorized under criteria established by an
Executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national
defense or foreign policy and (B) are in fact properly
classified pursuant to such Executive order;

(2) related solely to the internal personnel rules and practices
of an agency;

(3) specifically exempted from disclosure by statute (other than
section 552b of this title), provided that such statute (A)
requires that the matters be withheld from the public in such a
manner as to leave no discretion on the issue, or (B)
establishes particular criteria for withholding or refers to
particular types of matters to be withheld;

(4) trade secrets and commercial or financial information
obtained from a person and privileged or confidential;

(5) inter-agency or intra-agency memorandums or letters which
would not be available by law to a party other than an agency in
litigation with the agency;

(6) personnel and medical files and similar files the disclosure
of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of
personal privacy;

(7) records or information compiled for law enforcement
purposes, but only to the extent that the production of such law
enforcement records or information (A) could reasonably be
expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings, (B) would
deprive a person of a right to a fair trial or an impartial
adjudication, (C) could reasonably be expected to constitute an
unwarranted invasion of personal privacy, (D) could reasonably
be expected to disclose the identity of a confidential source,
including a State, local, or foreign agency or authority or any
private institution which furnished information on a
confidential basis, and, in the case of a record or information
compiled by a criminal law enforcement authority in the course
of a criminal investigation or by an agency conducting a lawful
national security intelligence investigation, information
furnished by a confidential source, (E) would disclose
techniques and procedures for law enforcement investigations or
prosecutions, or would disclose guidelines for law enforcement
investigations or prosecutions if such disclosure could
reasonably be expected to risk circumvention of the law, or (F)
could reasonably be expected to endanger the life or physical
safety of any individual;

(8) contained in or related to examination, operating, or
condition reports prepared by, on behalf of, or for the use of
an agency responsible for the regulation or supervision of
financial institutions; or

(9) geological and geophysical information and data, including
maps, concerning wells.

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Regards,

Frank



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