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Re: Russian Orthodox Church Excludes UFOs

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 13:41:28 -0300
Archived: Tue, 20 May 2008 06:42:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Russian Orthodox Church Excludes UFOs


>From: Nick Balaskas <nikolaos.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:22:10 -0400
>Subject: Re: Russian Orthodox Church Excludes UFOs

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 15:56:06 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Russian Orthodox Church Excludes UFOs

>>>Source: Interfax News Agency - Moscow, Russia

>>>http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=4675

>>>15 May 2008

>>>The Orthodox Church Negates UFO-People - A Theology Professor

>>>Moscow, May 15, Interfax - The Orthodoxy excludes a possibility
>>>of existing extraterrestrial intelligence, the famous theologian
>>>and professor of the Moscow Theological Academy Alexey Osipov
>>>said.

><snip>

>>That's pretty childish in any event. I note his credentials up
>>front, "the famous theologian and professor of the Moscow
>>Theological Academy Alexey Osipov". Sort of like getting a
>>degree in changing tires from the Wal-Mart for all the value it
>>has. Self fulfilling BS.

>Just because an academic with a so-called 'Wal-Mart' degree from
>a Christian founded institution such as Oxford, Harvard or even
>the University of Toronto, expresses an opinion on UFOs and
>about aliens that conflicts with your personal beliefs is no
>reason to get all excited.

>The continuing study of UFOs darting through the skies above us
>on planet Earth and the many accounts of very human-like
>entities associated with these UFOs is NOT proof or even very
>compelling evidence for the popular and widely held belief that
>our universe must be teaming with extraterrestrial
>civilizations, something which we have, so far, failed to
>discover. That said, UFOs and their human-like entities are very
>compelling evidence for what John Keel and others have called
>ultraterrestrials whose origin is not necessarily some distant
>world but from our realm of reality which is described in much
>detail in our historic and religious texts.

>Since the so-called ETs look so much like us and know an awful
>about us too, why is it so hard to accept the old scientific (or
>religious?) views that these ETs are higher dimensional beings,
>including time travellers, that co-exist with us here?

>Our 21st century thinking has become too restricted and we may
>never come to a true understanding about UFOs and the advanced
>intelligences associated with them without reconsidering what
>the Bible and the Church Fathers had to say on this subject.
>Don't let different terminology such as angels and demons with
>the biases and preconceptions that come with these names divert
>us from our search for the truth. Maybe we should listen more to
>what Orthodox, Muslim, Roman Catholic and other ancient
>religions and "mythologies" have to say on this subject on which
>we still are in the dark.


First of all I was not getting excited. Whether this guy
supports the possibility of this phenomenon having to do with
some intelligent extraterrestrail intervention or not means
nothing. Another power seeker.

I was surprised that anyone would think him famous. Never heard
of him. But I do think religion should stay out of it. But
that's just me because it has no credibility or standing as far
as I'm concerned.

Religion should spend all of it's time trying to clean up the
mess it has created over the centuries and apologizing for the
millions it has gotten killed - and is still getting killed - in
its name right up to the very minute you read this. I would give
religion a pass if it would stay out of governance and the
teaching of children. It is power based and jealous of it.

You stated; "Maybe we should listen more to what Orthodox,
Muslim, Roman Catholic and other ancient religions and
"mythologies" have to say on this subject on which we still are
in the dark."

We might learn more about the events of the last 1,500 years or
so if the Vatican would open up its archives. However mythology
is an apt name for much of today's religion, it is myth based.

Now we see the Vatican getting on board. So I guess this means
that the truly devoted millions to that faith can now start
thinking for themselves, at least where that recently sanctioned
line of thought is involved.

But basically it comes down to the flock [is that sheep or
birds-BTW] thinking for themselves and keeping religion away
from critical thinking.

Albert Einstien thought religion was childish but he supported
the premise that the universe supported more life other than our
own. Who am I to argue with him?


Don Ledger



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