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Re: MoD File Release

From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:23:16 +0100
Archived: Thu, 15 May 2008 11:55:00 -0400
Subject: Re: MoD File Release

>From: Stanton T Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:04:10 -0300
>Subject: Re: MoD File Release


Hi Stan, List,

>Thanks much for this excellent overview. Have you yet seen any
>documents classified higher than SECRET? Personally I would
>expect that the most interesting sightings didn't make it into
>these MOD files just as the most interesting US military
>encounters didn't make it into the Project Blue Book files.

You will probably have noticed from the web site that I have had
to use terms link "I think", and "I believe" in trying to
understand the roles of some of the departments. I do think that
my understanding is close to the real situation, but it is
largely based on the context of documents that I have seen in
the past. I would hope that someone like Nick Pope will provide
a more accurate understanding of the various departments
concerned, or at least point out any errors that may exist in
what I have written.

I'm still ploughing through the documents methodically, and
today requested help from members of the ufologyinuk list to
construct a database of the file contents. This is a medium-term
project but I have kicked it off with a basic index of DEFE31-
172 and DEFE31-173 (which is as far as I have read so far) The
resulting spreadsheet can be downloaded from:


I don't claim that this is a wonderful piece of research, it is
just a start, but even this has caused me considerable eye
strain. It can be freely circulated, but I stress that it is
work in progress, and if anyone wants to collaborate with me on
populating and expanding the file, they are welcome to get in
touch with me.

As yet, I have not encountered any pages of 'SECRET' or above,
but there are a few entire enclosures which are redacted, and
IIRC a couple of apparently missing enclosures. I posted the
following comments on the ufologyinuk list earlier today which
will probably be of interest to the List:

- There were several blank,illegible, or redacted pages. I shall
be querying these, but blank pages are not uncommon in the paper
files I have seen previously.

- There were a couple of pages with no apparent enclosure
number. This may be because they were enclosed at the same time
as a sequential document, or it could simply be human error.
This is also not uncommon in files I have previously seen.

- There were some missing enclosures. While this could be human
error (misnumbering), I find this suspicious particularly in view
of the fact that these were in DEFE31-173 which also is missing
the enclosure index - and you all know that I am not inherently

- Perhaps one of the most puzzling aspects I have so far noticed
is DEFE31-173 enclosures 15 and 37. These appear to be identical
reports, seperated by exactly one month. No doubt conspiracy
theorists will see this as evidence of file tampering, and I can
understand why, though I suspect a human error. I can't work out
where this error could have occured though, does anyone have any



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