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From: Frank Warren <frank-warren.nul> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 07:08:09 -0700 Archived: Sat, 10 May 2008 10:46:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals >From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul> >To: <ufoupdates.nul> >Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:54:37 -0400 >Subject: Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals >>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul> >>To: ufoupdates.nul >>Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 13:50:07 -0300 >>Subject: Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals ><snip> >>>given the fact that training, or more >>>specifically the dropping of flares was a common occurence in >>>the area, one would think they would have an idea about the >>>characteristics of LUU-2 illumination flares, i.e., candlepower, >>>distances they would be visible etc. Moreover, smoke and/or >>>'chutes would be visible. >>Perhaps Bruce addressed this brilliance verses distance in his >>analysis? >The flares burn with an output rated at up to 2 million >candlepower. Can be seen at night for many tens of miles. >The images in the 10:00pm videos do not show any smoke trails, >but one wouldn't expect to see the light reflected from smoke >from a great distance. >Instead, the image of the bright flare would create an image that >essentially 'covers-up' any light from the smoke. (The image >actually recorded by the camera is many times larger than the >image would be if the camera optics were 'perfect'. >Note that the image of a distant very bright light is much larger >than the image of an equally distant' dim light. The image size >increases with brightness.) >The videos by Krzysten ("Krzysten arc") and C. Rairdon are >particularly valuable for analysis because the lights are seen >long enough to be able to prove that they drop downward and to >the left, consistent with falling flares in an airmass that was >moving west to east (right to left in the videos looking >southward). Bruce, Don, Brad, et al, To clarify my previous comments - in response to Brad re the 75 mile distance and playing devil's advocate: The further away the drop takes place, smoke and/or 'chutes are less likely to be visible, as Bruce emphasizes above. Important to remember (like Stephenville) the powers-that-be initially denied dropping flares only to later reverse themselves. Cheers, Frank Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast See: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/subscribers/
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