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Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals

From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:54:37 -0400
Archived: Fri, 09 May 2008 12:33:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals

>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 13:50:07 -0300
>Subject: Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals


>>given the fact that training, or more
>>specifically the dropping of flares was a common occurence in
>>the area, one would think they would have an idea about the
>>characteristics of LUU-2 illumination flares, i.e., candlepower,
>>distances they would be visible etc. Moreover, smoke and/or
>>'chutes would be visible.

>Perhaps Bruce addressed this brilliance verses distance in his

The flares burn with an output rated at up to 2 million
candlepower. Can be seen at night for many tens of miles.

The images in the 10:00pm videos do not show any smoke trails,
but one wouldn't expect to see the light reflected from smoke
from a great distance.

Instead, the image of the bright flare would create an image that
essentially 'covers-up' any light from the smoke. (The image
actually recorded by the camera is many times larger than the
image would be if the camera optics were 'perfect'.

Note that the image of a distant very bright light is much larger
than the image of an equally distant' dim light. The image size
increases with brightness.)

The videos by Krzysten ("Krzysten arc") and C. Rairdon are
particularly valuable for analysis because the lights are seen
long enough to be able to prove that they drop downward and to
the left, consistent with falling flares in an airmass that was
moving west to east (right to left in the videos looking

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