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Re: Fermi's 'Paradox' Cancelled?

From: James Smith <lunartravel.nul>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 11:20:40 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Archived: Mon, 05 May 2008 11:40:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Fermi's 'Paradox' Cancelled?

>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 18:13:24 +0100
>Subject: Re: Fermi's 'Paradox' Cancelled?

>>From: James Smith <lunartravel.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:17:41 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
>>Subject: Re: Fermi's 'Paradox' Cancelled?

>>This was STS-82. It is odd that the Smoking Gun video does not
>>match the odd dialogue audio. It would "seem" to go with it and
>>is more interesting to watch than the reality, but it had to be
>>some other time period or mission.

>James - if you're implying the tape was 'faked' by dubbing, then
>say so - or better still, prove it.

I am saying that as far as I know the audio tape is a true
recording, but misinterpreted - at least that is my impression.
I can have an opinion? If not, then such forums serve little

If you order the various tapes of that mission time period from
NASA, you find that the video drops out, presumably from a TDRSS
drop or switch, so that there is no audio. Other non-NASA people
monitoring the event with their video tape machines somehow were
able to also record the boring image of the outside of the
airlock and the desultory comments of the astronauts waiting in
there (for presumably an hour based on the NASA tape). Yet,
although in the video (recorded off NASA TV?) the boring image
(not a still because flecks of debris can be seen going by)
drops out, the view switches to the mission control room and
then the odd audio conversation occurs.

I cannot explain why audio can still be broadcast but video
cannot. I cannot even prove the "non-NASA" people's recording is
valid. It seems like it is because it matches up the video
available from NASA up to the point of the camera switching to
mission control. NASA does not archive those NASA TV broadcasts.

Now, regarding the synchronizing of the video and audio in the
Smoking Gun video for this odd dialogue event. The NASA video
implies other dialogue was going on regarding proper airlock
procedures as they were entering the airlock. The "non-NASA"
person's video shows a similar event. The Smoking Gun video
does not show this, rather it shows them saying the odd dialogue
as they were entering the airlock. I am inclined to think in
order to sustain viewer interest, an appropriate video to
accompany the real audio was used. Or perhaps some simple
mistake or erroneous understanding occurred.

>As they might be charging a dollar or two to cover bandwidth -
>they'll be able to sue if they think you're maliciously
>misleading folk about their product/service.

This seems to cut off any discussion doesn't it?

>And Graham Birdsall's estate might not be too happy about it -
>he seemed to have a good reputation.

I say the audio is likely valid, but could have been

And, as far as I can tell, it seems the video (which may be from
that mission, I don't have the inclination to find it) was
erroneously associated with the audio for an unknown reason.

Or of course, it could all be a conspiracy thus there is no hope
for the truth.

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