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Re: Fermi's 'Paradox' Cancelled?

From: James Smith <lunartravel.nul>
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:17:41 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Archived: Sun, 04 May 2008 08:09:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Fermi's 'Paradox' Cancelled?


>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:27:01 +0100
>Subject: Re: Fermi's 'Paradox' Cancelled?

>James, one more time - and slowly - quoting from the video:
>'they are seen under all lighting conditions and with many
>different camera systems'.

If people want to buy tapes and the makers of them make money,
fine by me. Entertainment is a valid thing to spend money on

But if you watch 100s of hours of footage (fast forward play
mostly, thank God!) then you get a feel for what stuff is out
there. I cannot (dis)prove by examining videos whether a little
dot, wormy twisting form, streaking light, or flashing light is
an alien life form or spaceship or anything else. For my own
purposes I need something more.. like the amoeba-like object
"arising" from the Puerto Rico area that Dr. Carlotto analyzed
in his paper "Anomalous Phenomena in Space Shuttle Mission STS-
80 Video". (Where is he anymore? His web site is shut.)

>Further (slowly again?) it's explained on that page - which you
>maybe skipped - that, at the end of Part 6 and into part 7, two
>astronauts preparing to EVA see several of the phenomena zip
>past them, coming _into_ the spacecraft. I.e they were seen by
>the human eye and therefore can't be camera artifacts. NASA
>haven't yet said if they - the three fast self-luminous `things'
>- eventually left the craft or maybe hitched a ride down to
>Earth.

This was STS-82. It is odd that the Smoking Gun video does not
match the odd dialogue audio. It would "seem" to go with it and
is more interesting to watch than the reality, but it had to be
some other time period or mission.

In the actual video, the astronauts are sitting in the airlock
with the thermal cover closed so they can't even look out. They
seem cramped in there. They do not leave it for about an hour.
They have no video in the airlock, so we are treated to a view
of the entrance to the airlock until the video signal is lost
(not the audio).

No lights are ever seen (tiny debris does fly by, during the ten
minutes prior, outside the covered airlock but not enough to be
a big deal) in any video during the audio time period. I think
they had been sitting in there for about 10 minutes before they
started the dialogue.

I agreed with Oberg in his assessment that it was either the
airlock lights or lights on the suit that were flickering.

Other slight possibilities are the odd cosmic rays that
astronauts sometimes see and reflective flares off the Hubble
solar arrays.

But we need a lot more proof (for me at least) than odd dialogue
to say it was visiting lifeforms.

>If you have problems processing information then it's going to
>get worse. Martyn says he's preparing to put hours of unedited
>tapes on www.tbln.com/ - so you can see the phenomena zooming
>around, with all their different shapes and modes of travel.

Oh, boy.



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