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Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals

From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 18:32:02 EDT
Archived: Sat, 03 May 2008 07:40:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals

>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 04:40:43 -0300
>Subject: Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals

>>From: Frank Warren <frank-warren.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 09:27:59 -0700
>>Subject: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals

>>Greetings Listers,

>>Seth Shostak offered up some penscript (at his blog) on the
>>recent hoax in Phoenix, and to no surprise melded the events of
>>March '97 into the piece.


>The flares dropped at 10:00 pm are from a single aircraft, an A-
>10 which dropped them, each preset - from the cockpit - to
>ignite at 25,000 feet 75 miles away. Since flares are useless
>for ground illumination above 1,500 feet AGL what was the point
>of ignition at 25K?

>My guess is a quick patch job for the folks in Phoenix 2 hours
>plus past the main events. And I am not buying the foolishness
>about getting rid or the flares at high altitude so they
>wouldn't start brush fires in the desert and because they didn't
>want to land the A-10 with flares on board - or put them back
>into inventory.

>They didn't have concerns earlier about dropping them into the

>There is much to be said about full crockery re Seth's
>ruminations. It's 4:40am and I'm going to bed.

Hi Don,

I don't know why Shostak would bother beating the tired dead
horse. Doesn't he have better things to do with his time?

But I have a problem with the theory that the AF deliberately
dropped the flares within 2 hours of the genuine UFO sightings
from 75 miles away just to try to confuse people. I would doubt
anyone in the AF would think the flares could even be seen from
75 miles away or be prominent enough to be noticed. Wouldn't it
have been easier to just fly a formation of A-10 aircraft
directly over the the route of the UFO to try to confuse
witnesses, maybe have them flash some high intensity lights
along the way?

It seems more likely that it was a serendipitous opportunity
after the fact to claim the flares caused the UFO sightings, not
part of a planned operation.


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