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Re: SETI's Real Objectives?

From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 10:46:59 -0600
Archived: Fri, 02 May 2008 12:50:11 -0400
Subject: Re: SETI's Real Objectives?

>From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 18:13:16 +0100
>Subject: Re: SETI's Real Objectives?

>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:03:37 +0100
>>Subject: SETI's real objectives?

>>"A civilization very much more advanced than we will be engaged
>>in a busy communications traffic with its peers; but not with
>>us, and not via technologies accessible to us." --Communication
>>With Extraterrestrial Intelligence - Carl Sagan (ed.) 1973 p.

>>"Communication is a universal, but the use of radio is a
>>parochial, when we go out into the Galaxy... a radio signal will
>>be about as useful as a smoke signal. Communication evolves"
>>Evolving The Alien - Profs. Jack Cohen & Ian Stewart, 2002. ISBN


>The one thing you can say for sure about them is that everybody
>else tells them how they could be doing their job better than
>they are doing. They get almost as much stick as we do. If Sagan
>and Cohen and Stewart are correct, and they likely are, it means
>that the onus on contact will be with our space bretheren and
>will not happen by chance or through SETI's efforts.

Hi Stuart,

When you use "contact" in the sense of a deliberate, targeted
communication, I would agree that if such occurs it will not
have been initiated on our end. However, SETI - at least in
principle - casts a wider net than that, to include passive by-
products of intelligent activity. Should you find yourself cast
away on some remote island, it is sufficient that you see
campfire smoke or hear the noise of machinery to be confident
that you are not alone.

It may well be that SETI as currently configured is looking in
the wrong places with the wrong tools, or even that phenomena
associated with ETI have already been detected but are being
misidentified as 'natural'. Nonetheless, I consider SETI a well-
motivated, if clumsy, endeavor.


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