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Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 04:40:43 -0300
Archived: Fri, 02 May 2008 10:10:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals


>From: Frank Warren <frank-warren.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 09:27:59 -0700
>Subject: Shostaks's 'Phoenix Lights' With Rebuttals

>Greetings Listers,

>Seth Shostak offered up some penscript (at his blog) on the
>recent hoax in Phoenix, and to no surprise melded the events of
>March '97 into the piece.

>He exemplifies the "cognitive bias" that permeates mainstream
>science in regards to aerial phenomenon. Below is his article,
>followed by my comments.

>Shostak's erroneous essay precipitated a response by Mike Fortson
>(eye witness to the Phoenix Lights) as well.

<snip>

What puzzles me is why Seth even cares about these events. Job
security perhaps? His explnation of what happened on that
evening in 1997 is truly sketchy. To maintain his bias I would
think he would have to deny himself access to detailed events of
that night. Plausible deniability.

The theory about plane formation over Phoenix that night has no
varacity and the heck with what the amteur astronomer says. Try
that little trick of watching a wide-spread plane formation
through a telescope and see how ridiculous that sounds.

And it's an Air Traffic Control Zone for God's sake.

There are tower logs that can be checked even if the tapes are
gone.

Symington incidentally being in the Air Force would of course
been over-awed by something he had seen many times before; maybe
because the formation made no sound.

His not knowing what he saw is sort of like Marcel not knowing a
tinfoil reflector from a weather balloon.

The flares dropped at 10:00 pm are from a single aircraft, an A-
10 which dropped them, each preset - from the cockpit - to
ignite at 25,000 feet 75 miles away. Since flares are useless
for ground illumination above 1,500 feet AGL what was the point
of ignition at 25K?

My guess is a quick patch job for the folks in Phoenix 2 hours
plus past the main events. And I am not buying the foolishness
about getting rid or the flares at high altitude so they
wouldn't start brush fires in the desert and because they didn't
want to land the A-10 with flares on board - or put them back
into inventory.

They didn't have concerns earlier about dropping them into the
desert.

There is much to be said about full crockery re Seth's
ruminations. It's 4:40am and I'm going to bed.


Don Ledger




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