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Re: SETI's Real Objectives?

From: Stuart Miller <stuart.4.nul>
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 18:13:16 +0100
Archived: Thu, 01 May 2008 20:11:00 -0400
Subject: Re: SETI's Real Objectives?


>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:03:37 +0100
>Subject: SETI's real objectives?

>Hello List,

>"A civilization very much more advanced than we will be engaged
>in a busy communications traffic with its peers; but not with
>us, and not via technologies accessible to us." --Communication
>With Extraterrestrial Intelligence - Carl Sagan (ed.) 1973 p.
>366

>"Communication is a universal, but the use of radio is a
>parochial, when we go out into the Galaxy... a radio signal will
>be about as useful as a smoke signal. Communication evolves"
>Evolving The Alien - Profs. Jack Cohen & Ian Stewart, 2002. ISBN
>0-09-187927-2

>Speculation:

>i) it's likeliest that SETI aren't looking for advanced
>civilizations, not even slightly advanced, because our more
>efficient radio signals are indistinguishable from noise -
> unless you have the code-key. And, like those three say above,
>more advanced folk won't be using radio at all;

>ii) most sincere technical UFO/ET tracking & monitoring attempts
>by private citizens have been forcibly closed-down by gov't
>agencies, with burning of records & publications, arrests,
>imprisonment and even deaths of investigators;

>iii) strategically, gov't is only interested in ETs within a few
>light years - if much further away they won't be coming here (in
>a political life-time anyway), and we can't get there.

>Putting those three together you get:

>a) that SETI is really looking for nearby 'primitives' - pretty
>much like us;

>b) that SETI is really a covert, deniable, government agency.


Hi Ray,

While I acknowledge that you labelled this "Speculation", I
think the very last conclusion is taking things a bit too far.
They are not a government agency, as you must know,

The one thing you can say for sure about them is that everybody
else tells them how they could be doing their job better than
they are doing. They get almost as much stick as we do. If Sagan
and Cohen and Stewart are correct, and they likely are, it means
that the onus on contact will be with our space bretheren and
will not happen by chance or through SETI's efforts.

From that one can conclude that SETI are irrelevant to the
contact scenario, possibly.



Stuart Miller
Alien Worlds magazine
http://www.alienworldsmag.com




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