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Re: Strange Aerial Object Over Irving Texas

From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 14:49:35 -0500
Archived: Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:57:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Strange Aerial Object Over Irving Texas


>From: Michael Tarbell <mtarbell.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:51:58 -0700
>Subject: Re: Strange Aerial Object Over Irving Texas

>>From: Bruce Maccabee <brumac.nul>
>>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 15:25:04 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Strange Aerial Object Over Irving Texas

<snip>

>>Whereas an unknown might be able to (seemingly) violate known
>>physics, a CEP cannot violate known physics. (If it did, then it
>>would be like explaining one unknown with another unknown.)

>Hi Bruce,

>While this clearly makes sense, one then wonders what actually
>constitutes a TRUFO. If all CEPs must be consistent with known
>physics, and if TRUFOs arise strictly as a result of the absence
>of any viable CEP, then "genuine" TRUFOs must be inconsistent
>with known physics.

>But this seems overly stringent. One can imagine, say, an
>extraterrestrial craft landing on the White House lawn without
>any overt violation of the known laws of physics.

>Nevertheless, such a strict criterion - and I am in favor of
>such - would be well suited to setting priorities for further
>investigation (exploring new physics, if nothing else), with the
>recognition that it may throw out some babies with the
>bathwater.

It is true that if a TRUFO were to satisfy one or more CEP by
appearing as a mundane object then one would not know whether it
is a TRUFO or not.

But so what: we need to find clear violations of _something_ in
order to know that something new has happened or been reported.
So, if a craft resembling a UA passenger jet lands at the
airport, no one is going to suspect anything new. It would not
be classified as a TRUFO. On the other hand, if it just suddenly
appears on teh runway, with no radar or visual observation
beforehand, one might well expect that something bizarre has
happened. And if a grey skinned crew with large eyes, thin
bodies, etc. exit by floating out the the plane, we would
suddenly know that something "new has happened." Suddently the
initially suppose UA passenger jet is a TRUFO.

I don't think we'll have to worry much about throwing the baby
out with the bathwater. The objects that we classify as TRUFOs
hardly ever, if ever, look like something made by mankind.



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