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Re: E.S.A. Successfully Tests Real SETI Detector -

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:45:09 +0100
Fwd Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:10:51 -0400
Subject: Re: E.S.A. Successfully Tests Real SETI Detector -


>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
>To: <ufoupdates.nul>
>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 18:25:14 +0100
>Subject: Re: E.S.A. Successfully Tests Real SETI Detector

<snip>

>Given that entanglement is probably the dominant type of
>coupling in all physical systems, this fact is almost obvious.
>It is implied in the very fact that the world around you is not
>a coherent superposition of quantum states, but a classical
>world of decohered states within a relativistic spacetime
>structure. In other words, nature is shot through with EPR-type
>entanglements, and her complete causal structure evidently
>depends somehow on the fact that they are there, but she doesn't
>use them for getting classical information from place to place.
>And neither can we.

<snip>

Martin,

Hope you'll forgive me snipping the opinion stuff - and have to
admit that a hundred years ago you could have made that
statement without fear of contradiction, in fact only one or two
people in the world might have understood it.

Then, well into the century Einstein made a last attempt to
'logically' disbar the physical existence of a 'quantum field' -
and was proved wrong by repeated experiments, the best known
being by Alain Aspect. Bell's earlier truly logical analysis of
the possible results, often called his "Inequality" is still too
scary for many 'scientists' to truly admit into their thinking.

And now we know that nature not only uses the quantum field but
allows individual beings to use it for their own purposes.

Quote #1

"Plants, it turns out, rely on a similar quantum function to
convert sunlight into chemical energy at near-perfect efficiency.
As energy passes between molecules involved in photosynthesis, a
newly observed 'wavelike characteristic' allows the energy to
'simultaneously sample all the potential energy pathways and
choose the most efficient one.'

If scientists figure out how to emulate the process, they might
be able to artificially replicate photosynthesis... ushering in,
perhaps, a world of leafy green solar power."

http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/04/quantum_photosy.html


Quote #2

"There is some research to support the view that bees are
sensitive to effects that occur only on a quantum-mechanical
scale. One study exposed bees to short bursts of a high-
intensity magnetic field and concluded that the bees' response
could be better explained as a sensitivity to an effect known as
nuclear magnetic resonance, or nmr, an acronym commonly
associated with a medical imaging technique. nmr occurs when an
electromagnetic wave impinges on the nuclei of atoms and flips
their orientation. nmr is considered a quantum mechanical effect
because it takes place only if each atom absorbs a particular
size packet, or quantum, of electromagnetic energy."

The full report, on 'quantum flag manifold mapping' by bees, is
at a long URL in this text file:

http://www.perceptions.couk.com/uef/beesqm1.txt

Note: I suspect that many other evolved social insects also use
it for comms. Having been attacked by tree ants and other types
fairly often I've never believed the "pheromone" story - they
react too fast, over too wide an area, and are too concerted in
their appraisal of my location (and intentions).

It appears that even humans use it - for consciousness and
perceptions


Quote #3

"In a new experiment, we replicate the Moutoussis/Zeki paradigm
in a way that allows these two alternative interpretations to be
resolved, and which allows statistical test of the
'microconsciousness' theory. Even isolating those trials in
which perceptual pairing is confirmed by subject report, we find
that the Inequality is violated. We conclude that the activity
of cells in V5 must indeed depend partly on colour input and the
activity of cells in V4 partly on motion. Visual consciousness
must then be considered non-local and inseparable: the
microconsciousness does not exist."

http://www.isc.cnrs.fr/FPAR.htm#Duggins

As A.R. Wallace said "there is no law of nature yet known to us
but may be apparently contravened by the action of more
recondite laws or forces" - and we are only just beginning to
find out how right he was.

Fortunately (or not) I don't see the CIA-led NASA/JPL accepting
your veto, nor Russia, China, Europe or other interested
parties.


Cheers

Ray D



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