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Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists - Hall

From: Richard Hall <hallrichard99.nul>
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 12:47:31 +0000
Fwd Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:29:13 -0400
Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists - Hall


>From: Nicholas Redfern <nick_redfern.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:44:07 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists

>>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:14:47 +0200
>>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists

>>>From: Nicholas Redfern <nick_redfern.nul>
>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:46:42 -0700 (PDT)
>>>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists

>>>>From: Brad Sparks <RB47x.nul>
>>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>>Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:15:38 EDT
>>>>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists

>>>>>From: Nicholas Redfern <nick_redfern.nul>
>>>>>To: ufoupdates.nul
>>>>>Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:46:07 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>Subject: Re: U.S. Spies On Ufologists

<snip>

>>BTW, I am curious to know where you stand on Roswell today. In
>>your book, and in the following debates on this List, you seemed
>>quite certain that it was the true story of Roswell.

>>But in a recent message, you felt that we will never know the
>>truth:

>>http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2007/apr/m19-001.shtml

>>Did you change your mind?

>>Now, you are going to present your book again at the Roswell
>>festival in July. Are you going to say again that it is the true
>>story?

>Yes, I still stand by the data (much more has come through since
>publication of the book); but I do not believe that we will ever
>be able to firmly _prove_ any scenario to anyone's or everyone's
>satisfaction because of the lack of files etc.

>You accept the UFO angle; but equally that does not mean that
>you will ever know the truth in terms of being able to prove it.

>I think the human experiment angle is the answer to Roswell. But
>can it be proven via official files etc? Nope, not a chance in
>hell. But none of the other theories can either - not even
>Mogul. The files are gone, destroyed or hidden. I see no reason
>why that situation should ever change.

>So, accepting a scenario as real but actually being able to
>_prove_ it is real are two separate things.


Nick,

The fallacy of your reasoning is the premise that all proposed
explanations for Roswell are equaly valid and have equal amounts
of credible evidence in support of them.

Proof in science is an elusive thing, but your argument is like
claiming that since you can't prove anything it is equally valid
to believe the fossil record or the Bible when it comes to
evolution.

Or that OJ was innocent, not guilty.

Or that UFOs are only a social fantasy construct, not real solid
objects.

Taking refuge in the 'no proof' argument is a cop-out.


 - Dick



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