From: James Smith <zeus001002.nul> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 12:22:43 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Fwd Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:10:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Call To Action - Canadian UFO Information >From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul> >To: ufoupdates.nul >Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:13:45 -0400 >Subject: Re: Call To Action - Canadian UFO Information Project >>From: James Smith <zeus001002.nul> >>To: ufoupdates.nul >>Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:45:43 -0400 (GMT-04:00) >>Subject: Re: Call To Action - Canadian UFO Information Project <snip> >>Don't you want to first assess the dangers of ETI disclosure? >>Why promote, nay, force our elected officials into doing >>something that may cause chaos in our society? "Disclosure" >>sounds so positive and "good"... too bad the dark side is being >>ignored by UFO enthusiasts and promoters. >Well, as a member of a group of at least thousands of this >planet's citizens who are experiencing 100% deniable attacks by >technology which is at the UFO performance class, 24/7, for >years, for life, with some of our members driven to suicide, I >want UFO truth exposed _now_! It's decades overdue, in my >opinion. I sympathize with your plight. But what can I say? I agree that this kind of information (harassing citizens using the methods you describe- not really UFOs or even aliens, but actually the kind of tech you would expect of ET UFOs or aliens ~1000 yr advanced) SHOULD be released. It is an outrage if the government or its representatives are harassing you or these other citizens. Especially since the harassment seems motiveless and perverse. I advocate the release of this kind of data because it seems like the scenarios for public harm are slight, national security moderate (but tough, screw them I say rather than have them get their little benefits(?)at the expensive of hurting citizens), and public good is improved. The problem I think you and your harassed fellows is that you cannot find the bastards and back them into a corner and beat them up! Its always the elusive remote operation and untraceable perpetrator. Even motiveless! Why torture people for no obvious gain? Mind control (if it can have a "good" motive) would be better used to make CEOs/government leaders make the right decisions or make terrorists/law breakers NOT do bad things. But the harassors do not seem interested in this kind of work. Why harass citizens in no place of power or knowledge? If it REALLY must be done for some unknown reason, why not use test subjects that are not likely to complain or report such as "expendables" like illegal immigrants or the thousands of people that "disappear" each year? There are alot of questions I have with this harassment concept. It does seem to happen and can be documented (at least the subjective effects) but most of the time it seems more like demonic forces than UFOs or the government. Sure, if the government wanted to spend millions of dollars to harass a person they could, and could likely be untraceable, but the motivation is what bothers me. What is implied is that either the particular person is very special in some unknown way (I am sorry but this is generally not true, most of us are rather unimportant) or that they just randomly want to test torture people to test their equipment. This is much like the idea of the government testing their UFO- like triangles over populated areas. I don't think so. Wouldn't they NOT want to do this? Sure a little field testing may be valuable to them, but not at the level we are talking about as seen in reports. So I do not really think the government is doing this kind of testing, but if you can gather evidence this is happening (suitable to provide your Congressman or network TV), then go for it! I would think that adequate directional EM monitoring, motion sensing video recorders, acoustic monitoring, EEG should be able to provide data. If the frequencies are beyond our tech to monitor and can be done at a distance then we are screwed and likely no one will believe you. This almost matches the alien abduction problem. My notion is that this harassment is less related to UFOs and prosaic human agents (criminal or govern.) and more related to some sort of paranormal activity. Perhaps ghosts, poltergeists, demons, or some unnamed psychokinetic force. >Whether or not the scum who torture us received help from ETs >(or UFO crashes) or not. Yes, it should be reported because of the human abuse. But if UFO aliens are doing these harassing things AND the government cannot do anything about it to prevent it, don't you think the public would be put into a panic if the government made such a pronouncement? Maybe it would make matters worse because rather than have a very small group of harassed,tormented people, you would have EVERYONE freaking out because they could be next and there is no way to stop it. How many would commit suicide then? >At the very least, full UFO disclosure would end, once and for >all, the chronic denial by officials that technology which can >do what we report exists. You presume the government knows and participates in the harassment activities. Perhaps they either do not know what is going on, or have no control of it. Why assume the worse, namely that the government is the evil-doer? Sure it has many problems, but I do not see the facts that say the government has this technology. If they disclosed something, who would believe them? Maybe they made it up? Maybe they release only stuff that makes them look good? Maybe they release only stuff that makes others look bad or even discredit the harassed people/UFO concept? >In a broader view, the government personnel who know the full >truth are _no_ better than we are, and they are not freaking >out. As Jessie Marcel urged, give the people what they actually >own, and _do_it_now_! Again, you assume they know something about what is going on. If they know something secret, then its likely they have a good rationale (maybe not right by OUR standards, but good enough for them) to maintain secrecy. Also, you are assuming they are not freaking out. Who knows what nightmares they have? Perhaps they have compartmentalized their work (like Clinton) to allow them to function normally. Perhaps psych pre-screening permits selection of the right people to be exposed to the data and secrets rather than run the risk of unstable people freaking out.
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