From: Eleanor White <eleanor.nul>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:46:04 -0500
Fwd Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:02:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Seth Shostak Talks ET And SETI - White


>From: Larry Hatch <larryhatch.nul>
>To: ufoupdates.nul
>Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:16:59 -0800
>Subject: Re: Seth Shostak Talks ET And SETI

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>>>>Seth Shostak: "As far as we know, nothing can beat radio or
>>>>light for speed - Albert Einstein told us that, and so far
>>>>there's no reason to disbelieve him."

<snip>

>Unless I have this very wrong, it is certain entangled
>_properties_ of particles that propagate faster than light. I
>refer to entities like 'spin'. The particles themselves stay
>put, or travel at ordinary luminal/subluminal speeds.

>This may sound like a technical quibble, but it is a very
>important one. I would be astounded and very pleased if actual
>particles, real physical things and not just their properties,
>were proved to travel FTL.

Agreed. But when effects travel faster than light, that is a
crucial _pointer_ to more discoveries which may involve events
like, say, real physical things ducking into a different
dimension set, travelling FTL, then popping back out into the
dimension set we live in.

And for Seth Shostak not to at least mention this implication,
and just lump it all into his "nothing" term, is enough for me
to _seriously_ question his motives.

I'll try to say it better this time, but in our field, we know
that some scientific leading lights know very well about the
proven-beyond-doubt remote neurological influence technology,
yet go on national radio and tell the public they know nothing
about such technology.

I can't call that a lie, but I can call it "less than entirely
truthful."

Getting at UFO/ET truth requires, I believe, raising objections
to sweeping statements such as Seth Shostak's above.


Eleanor White